Oneness Galen Marek vs. Vitiate

Started by The Ellimist6 pages

It's very convenient of you to obsess over vague accolades from random sources, but then dismiss the dozen explicit confirmations of Palpatine's supremacy. 👆

Originally posted by Syndicate
Oneness at will? Can you show me any other examples of him doing this outside of the Revan novel?

Well, it's called Force in Balance. It's Revan's trademark technique. He uses it on the Foundry also.

Also can I get the quote for him being the most powerful Jedi prior to Yoda?

No shit he's the most powerful prior to Yoda. 😬 Who the **** is greater? Nomi Sunrider? Lord Hoth?

Also: "Revan has become more powerful than any Jedi has ever dreamed of."

Anyway, DD, I get that you want people to "respect" Starkiller, but recognize that your efforts here are doing the opposite.

Like on ComicVine, you have mobilized the entire forum against you and persuaded virtually no one in return.

You are the bane of your cause.

I wonder when Starkiller is going to reach the same point Bane has.

At this rate, he'll be joining Bane in the grave very soon. mmm

If he does, I can safely say that I called it ever since Syndicate said Galen was Yoda level.

@Legends


When have Palpatine lit up worlds with Force Lightning? I don't think this is possible in literal sense.

Galen's feat of activating a gun that pierced through the hull of an ISD is not a meaningful example to cite here. It just tells us that Force Lightning can be useful in similar situations.

I don't have the quote on me but I believe Ell does.

Well it tells us what Galen himself is capable of in regards to this ability ( probably more given he fought through an army beforehand and had grown in power by the time he fought Palpatine ).

There is no other instance of it but possibility cannot be ruled out since many events featuring Revan lack have not been documented.

However, that showing is representative of Revan's innate talent:

Three centuries ago, Revan wielded the dual philosophies of Sith passion and Jedi tranquility to conquer his enemies; he even nearly assassinated the Sith Emperor.

From Star Wars: The Old Republic: Encyclopedia

Galen himself uses both the light and darkside. It doesn't mean he's in a constant state of Oneness or can achieve it at will and neither do the quotes you provided mean that for Revan.

To address the quotes you provided.

For the first one that doesn't say that he was the most powerful up to that point or between his time and Yoda's. Only at the time Revan was a Jedi ( during the Mandalorian Wars ) he was the most powerful of them.

Is the second an official source or just the opinion of the person stating it?

The third quote you provided simply confirms Revan is more knowledgeable then Scourge.

The 4th states that he's a living legend.

Regardless of the validity of the second quote none of the ones you provided confirmed he was the most powerful Jedi up to Yoda's time.

Well, I am simply pointing out what I have observed in the game that considers all possibilities (depending upon choices made).

It doesn't makes sense that the confrontation is entirely one-sided (during alternative chain of events) but not one-sided (during officially recognized chain of events). There has to be difference in intent in both cases.

I think the writers were probably trying to say that Galen drawing only on the darkside rather then his love for Juno made him less then what he was. As you say though it's up to interpretation.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Well, it's called Force in Balance. It's Revan's trademark technique. He uses it on the Foundry also.


No shit he's the most powerful prior to Yoda. 😬 Who the **** is greater? Nomi Sunrider? Lord Hoth?

Also: "Revan has become more powerful than any Jedi has ever dreamed of." [/B]

Can you provide the gifs/quotes? Your interpretation of being able to call upon Oneness at will in regards to Revan is probably very different from mine.

So there's no quote confirming it then?

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Anyway, DD, I get that you want people to "respect" Starkiller, but recognize that your efforts here are doing the opposite.

Like on ComicVine, you have mobilized the entire forum against you and persuaded virtually no one in return.

You are the bane of your cause.

I'm pretty much ok with that tbh. Unlike you I don't have an unhealthy obsession with the standing of my character. 😛

Originally posted by Beniboybling
At this rate, he'll be joining Bane in the grave very soon. mmm

They can embrace their paine despiur and ageny together. 🙂

Originally posted by Aurbere
If he does, I can safely say that I called it ever since Syndicate said Galen was Yoda level.

Your actual words were "I think that Galen is more powerful then people give him credit for and that your view is probably closer to the truth then some people would like to believe." 🙂

Sidious has never lit up a planet with force lightning on his own.

Lol. Only able to gain momentum when I'm in class I see. 😛

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Sidious has never lit up a planet with force lightning on his own.

Believe I saw Ell post about it. If it turns out to be inaccurate my apologies.

Originally posted by Syndicate
Your actual words were "I think that Galen is more powerful then people give him credit for and that your view is probably closer to the truth then some people would like to believe." 🙂

Sure I said that. But just because he's better than others think doesn't mean there won't be backlash against your stance.

Aurbie PM me. I can't PM you and you should probably be made aware of some information before this continues.

Originally posted by Syndicate
Can you provide the gifs/quotes? Your interpretation of being able to call upon Oneness at will in regards to Revan is probably very different from mine.

So there's no quote confirming it then?


Like I said, it's not "oneness" as it is utilizing "Force in Balance." To get in this state, all Revan has to do is let both sides of the Force run through him, which he also did on the Foundry for the first half of the fight. Just use Google to find the fight. When this happens, Revan can either channel this energy, in which he becomes vastly more powerful, unleash the energy, as he did when he pushed Vitiate, or focus the energy, in which he appears to have done to incapacite the coalition strike force and overshadow their Force powers.

Revan being stated to be far more powerful than any Jedi's imagination, which he was following channeling his Force in Balance technique (something he can do in combat), means he's the most powerful Jedi in history up to the time of the quote.

What are the best feats he's accomplished in state? The ones you mentioned?

The quote says he's become more powerful then any Jedi's ever dreamed. That seems to be saying that using both sides of the Force as he does he's become more powerful then a Jedi could be simply restricted to the Lightside of the Force.

Also what makes you think that the quote isn't era restricted even if your interpretation was correct?

Also that still doesn't matter for all eras after Revan's own.

Gotta get to my next class so all you groupies can come back out for the next few hours.

Why not look up some of your questions for yourself instead of asking ridiculous ones?