Originally posted by Aurbere
Scourge had an average of 3 kills a year. That's pretty sad in comparison to Ventress and her record. I think she could rack up 1000 kills in a few centuries. A lot of people could.
Originally posted by Syndicate
She already killed 21 Jedi within 2-3 years of the Clone Wars. This means at the least she would have been able to kill 2100 Jedi if she'd lived as long. More then twice that of Scourge's number.
Gosh, you think maybe being in a war actively fighting Jedi might have had something to do with that? As opposed to Scourge who doesn't participate in warfare outside of assassinating high priority targets? Hmm.
Originally posted by Aurbere
And uh, who are these "greatest threats" that Scourge killed? They apparently aren't as big a threat as the Jedi Grand Master or anyone in Council level range.
They're Jedi who "grew too powerful". I think its safe to say that a Jedi who Vitiate decides is too powerful is a pretty big deal. We don't know if he's killed any Grand Masters or Council members, but that he wasn't sent after any of the ones we've seen merely indicates they weren't considered a problem in need of a solution by Vitiate.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Gosh, you think maybe being in a war actively fighting Jedi might have had something to do with that? As opposed to Scourge who doesn't participate in warfare outside of assassinating high priority targets? Hmm.They're Jedi who "grew too powerful". I think its safe to say that a Jedi who Vitiate decides is too powerful is a pretty big deal. We don't know if he's killed an Grand Masters or Council members, but that he wasn't sent after any of the ones we've seen merely indicates they weren't considered a problem in need of a solution by Vitiate.
Given most of Ventress's confirmed kills occurred during missions and that she was referred to several times in both Legends and Canon as Dooku's personal assasin...
Originally posted by NephthysThey're Jedi who "grew too powerful". I think its safe to say that a Jedi who Vitiate decides is too powerful is a pretty big deal. We don't know if he's killed any Grand Masters or Council members, but that he wasn't sent after any of the ones we've seen merely indicates they weren't considered a problem in need of a solution by Vitiate.
So clearly Satele, her Council buddies, and the Dark Council peeps we know are inferior to Scourge's victims. 🙂
Originally posted by Syndicate
Given most of Ventress's confirmed kills occurred during missions and that she was referred to several times in both Legends and Canon as Dooku's personal assasin...
Are you gonna finish that sentence or are you not even trying to make a point?
Originally posted by Aurbere
So clearly Satele, her Council buddies, and the Dark Council peeps we know are inferior to Scourge's victims. 🙂
Or Vitiate didn't give a shit because he was close to finishing his ritual and doing other things. Its said repeatedly that Vitiate has his attention elsewhere prior to and during the game. Also theres no need to kill the Dark Council members until they start getting too ambitious.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Are you gonna finish that sentence or are you not even trying to make a point?Or Vitiate didn't give a shit because he was close to finishing his ritual and doing other things. Its said repeatedly that Vitiate has his attention elsewhere prior to and during the game. Also theres no need to kill the Dark Council members until they start getting too ambitious.
We don't even have confirmations that any of her Jedi kills occurred on the battlefield and given she was a Sith assassin first and foremost I doubt many of them did.
Also to address your response to Aurb it seems you're implying that random rebellious Sith were a bigger threat to his Empire then the Jedi Order or the Republic. :/
And?
Like, what's your point? Scourge was Vitiate's enforcer. His job was to protect the Emperor, keep the Dark Council in line, see to his interests and eliminate a very select set of targets when Vitiate wishes it. Ventress' job was to **** shit up. Obviously her more indiscriminate methods would lead to faster results.
Regardless, this is the completely wrong thing to be focusing on. The impressiveness isn't that Scourge "managed" to kill 1100 powerful opponents in 300 years. It's not a ****ing race. The quality comes from the fact that he's killed over a thousand goddamn opponents. That's insane in terms of combat experience. His abilities would be honed to utter perfection by the centuries of training and conflict and by the veritable lakes of victims he's slain. Ventress killing a handful of fodder is utter inconsequential.
As to the second point, obviously before the Empire revealed itself Sith would be the greater threat. And Vitiate didn't give many ****s about the Empire, only things that effected his agenda's. And Sajar was a loose end that needed tying up, since he knew about the Emperor's Children.
@Neph
And?
Like, what's your point? Scourge was Vitiate's enforcer. His job was to protect the Emperor, keep the Dark Council in line, see to his interests and eliminate a very select set of targets when Vitiate wishes it. Ventress' job was to **** shit up. Obviously her more indiscriminate methods would lead to faster results.
Ventress's job was to eliminate targets and carry out missions given by Dooku similar to Scourge's position. I don't see what the difference between their methods has to do with their comparative accomplishments in the same time frame.
Regardless, this is the completely wrong thing to be focusing on. The impressiveness isn't that Scourge "managed" to kill 1100 powerful opponents in 300 years. It's not a ****ing race. The quality comes from the fact that he's killed over a thousand goddamn opponents. That's insane in terms of combat experience. His abilities would be honed to utter perfection by the centuries of training and conflict and by the veritable lakes of victims he's slain. Ventress killing a handful of fodder is utter inconsequential.
So killing 3 Sith a year on average is going to hone his skill to perfection? :/ So Jedi fighting in the Clone Wars that Dooku picked out to be eliminated are fodder but the featless/nameless Sith Scourge killed aren't? Ok.
As to the second point, obviously before the Empire revealed itself Sith would be the greater threat. And Vitiate didn't give many ****s about the Empire, only things that effected his agenda's. And Sajar was a loose end that needed tying up, since he knew about the Emperor's Children.
My mistake. I realized this was before the war. Still why are these combatants any more impressive then the Jedi Ventress killed?