Count Dooku & Asajj Ventress vs. Wrath II & Scourge

Started by The Ellimist8 pages
Originally posted by Syndicate

So killing 3 Sith a year on average is going to hone his skill to perfection? :/

😂

Why would Lord Scourge scale positively off of Meetra when she completely outperforms him in both fights? Noting that she is pretty severely hindered and he had amps going for him both times.

Originally posted by Nephthys
They're stated to not be fodder. Pay attention.
Not being fodder doesn't mean much, especially in TOR. The Sith who fought during the sacking of Coruscant were said to be the elite of the Empire, still Ven Zallow could easily oneshot them. Moreover, a lot of Sith Lords during TOR era didn't fight alone, but were usually supported by dozens bodyguards, disciples,mercenaries they hired etc So obviously if a couple of these sith lords formed an alliance they could still pose a threat to the empire thanks to their little private armies. As far as we know the Sith Scourge killed may all be Darth Paladius tier,but if they have hundreds of loyal followers they may represent a threat.

Originally posted by carthage
As opposed to Scourge killing scores of unknown fodder?

Originally posted by carthage
Them being stated as not being fodder means nothing when Ventress can contend with Mace, Fisto, Obi Wan, Plo i,e the most skilled duelists produced by the Jedi order.

Fisto, Kenobi, Mace >> Nameless TOR losers


Aside from Kit Fisto, I don't recall Asajj Ventress defeating others.

During the events of SWTOR, the Emperor's Wrath was dispatched to assassinate a former member of the Dark Council (Darth) Sajar. He stalemated Tol Braga in a confrontation; the same guy who dominated Act III Hero of Tython in the early phase of the battle. So when we put the dots together, we figure out that Darth Sajar was on par with some of the strongest Jedi of the era.

Based on this example alone, we can infer that the Emperor's Wrath was dispatched to contend with high profile targets. Once again, your assumptions are ridiculous.

Originally posted by Syndicate
So killing 3 Sith a year on average is going to hone his skill to perfection? :/ So Jedi fighting in the Clone Wars that Dooku picked out to be eliminated are fodder but the featless/nameless Sith Scourge killed aren't? Ok.

Yes.

In his many decades as the Emperor's personal executioner, Scourge has developed a unique view of people, and a fatalistic view of the galaxy at large. He possesses an uncanny ability to analyze those around him to discover their weaknesses, and use that knowledge to his advantage.

From Star Wars: The Old Republic: Holonet

Sounds like shatterpoint to me.

Originally posted by Syndicate
My mistake. I realized this was before the war. Still why are these combatants any more impressive then the Jedi Ventress killed?

Why would he be dispatched to contend with foes that can be easily dismissed? A lesser Sith or an Imperial agent or some bounty hunters could do that job.

See the example of Darth Sajar above.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Why would Lord Scourge scale positively off of Meetra when she completely outperforms him in both fights? Noting that she is pretty severely hindered and he had amps going for him both times.

The Emperor's Wrath is on a whole new level then the Lord Scourge we got to know in the novel.

So there's a quote that says Scourge can analyze people's weaknesses and that now means he knows shatterpoint? :/ Ok.

Lmao, sounds more he's good at reading people, 'cause life experience.

Originally posted by Syndicate
So there's a quote that says Scourge can analyze people's weaknesses and that now means he knows shatterpoint? :/ Ok.

😂

Originally posted by Syndicate
So there's a quote that says Scourge can analyze people's weaknesses and that now means he knows shatterpoint? :/ Ok.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Lmao, sounds more he's good at reading people, 'cause life experience.

Dooku solos.

Dooku and Ventress give them a ruinous and painful end.

Originally posted by Azronger
Dooku solos.
Originally posted by SunRazer
Dooku and Ventress give them a ruinous and painful end.
👆

Originally posted by Azronger
Dooku solos.
Originally posted by Azronger
Dooku solos.

Dooku isn't soloing the Wrath. 😂

He might.

Even Anakin had trouble with him.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Dooku isn't soloing the Wrath. 😂

Are you planning on surpassing Legend? If so, good job.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Dooku isn't soloing the Wrath. 😂

If it were Act III HoT and Wrath I'd say he doesn't solo, but Scourge is weak sauce.

Pre-prime Wrath 'ruining' Baras who is considerably more powerful than Darth Ekkage, who is much more powerful than prime Wyellett, who decades before his prime was considered the most powerful Jedi hero of the day, more than the likes of Ven Zallow, Nomen Karr, Jaric Kaedan or even GM Satele Shan?

Yeh Dooku isn't beating him, and certainly not him with Scourge as back up.

If it makes you feel better, I have Wrath above any other Protagonist.

WrathLander is pretty insanely strong when you consider him ruining Baras before fighting through Ilum, Makeb, the Dread War, the Revanite War and then the massive amps the Outlander recieves over the course of KOTFE and KOTET.

You guys confuse me sometimes on who goes where regarding TOR.