Luke and Yoda vs. Vitiate and Sidious

Everyone in their prime (legends). The ultimate battle between the dark side and the light, who wins?

Too close to call imho.

Nah, if this is Valkorion, then Yoda is kinda the weak link here imo.

And Luke the strong link.

You have him above both Sidious and Valkorion? Even if he is, I don't see how his superiority is anything greater than a slight margin given the hype and planet killer feats these guys have. Yoda on the other hand would most likely fail to do great against either of the Emperors in a force fight.

Non jobbing Luke has a more than slight superiority over Sidious and Valkorion, being honest. Luke is equal or superior to them in every area that they can actually be compared, (raw power, TK, illusions, speed, physicality, etc). I mean, this dude pinned Caedus to a chair without effort, stonewalled UnuThul's telekinesis, defeated DE Sidious in a duel long before his prime, and has probably the most ridiculous learning curve in the mythos.

That said, yeah Yoda wouldn't be stalemating them in a force fight by any means. Hence why I said I'm uncertain.

Originally posted by Sinious
Nah, if this is Valkorion, then Yoda is kinda the weak link here imo.

Prime Yoda tho

Luke at the peak of his power is above either. I could see him carrying.

Luke solos. uhuh

Luke beats Sidious and prime! Yoda beats Vitiate (who is =/= Valkorion lol).

Vitiate and Valkorion are the same person, and there's nothing to suggest he grew in power from SWTOR to KotFE. He's been Valkorion for hundreds of years prior to the game's start.

He explicitly forsakes the name Vitiate lol, it's like trying to use Vader feats for an Anakin thread. 😬

Valkorion is "Vitiate" after his absorbs the energies of Ziost, so he's probably more powerful.

In either case, I would speculate that prime! Yoda could have defeated Sidious, so he can definitely beat Vitiate.

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Valkorion is the MVP here because of his ability to manifest as a disembodied being after loosing a physical vessel and still be able to affect the external environment in profound ways.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Non jobbing Luke has a more than slight superiority over Sidious and Valkorion, being honest. Luke is equal or superior to them in every area that they can actually be compared, (raw power, TK, illusions, speed, physicality, etc).

Luke Skywalker have nothing on Valkorion's Ziost based showings.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
I mean, this dude pinned Caedus to a chair without effort,

Darth Caedus doesn't have showings even on par with Darth Vader.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
stonewalled UnuThul's telekinesis,

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
defeated DE Sidious in a duel long before his prime, and has probably the most ridiculous learning curve in the mythos.

Even Exar Kun was capable of defeating DE/Early NJO Luke Skywalker.

Was gonna ask about UnuThul myself, and not sure if Caedus was trying to resist Luke's TK with the force. IIRC, he was trying really hard to avoid pissing off Luke.

Caedus mused that he couldn't break free if he tried to.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
He explicitly forsakes the name Vitiate lol, it's like trying to use Vader feats for an Anakin thread. 😬

Valkorion is "Vitiate" after his absorbs the energies of Ziost, so he's probably more powerful.

In either case, I would speculate that prime! Yoda could have defeated Sidious, so he can definitely beat Vitiate.

Vitiate was Valkorion while he was still using the former name. He didn't just become Valkorion or anything. I don't think we've ever seen him as just Vitiate.

And Vitiate did that to Ziost to recover his depleted energy.

ABC logic lololol.

^ ok, thanks for admitting that Ziost didn't make Vitiate any stromger, and that KotfE Valkorion (because we were talking about that one, duh) is still bound by the Sidious ceiling. 👆

Originally posted by The Ellimist
^ ok, thanks for admitting that Ziost didn't make Vitiate any stromger, and that KotfE Valkorion (because we were talking about that one, duh) is still bound by the Sidious ceiling. 👆

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Valkorion > Palpatine by virtue of feats and capabilities.

That's what your logic is doing for you right now.

And if you argue Yoda/Windu etc > her via accolades, despite inferior feats, then the same has to apply for Sidious being > Valkorion. (though I'm sure someone else can argue for Sidious having better feats regardless).

🙂

Yeah, and Sidious overpowering Yoda's Absorption is better than any of Valkorion's Lightning feats as well. Yoda >>> Arcann, Marr, etc. Now add on decades of power growth. In his prime, Sidious > Valkorion, by both feats and accolades.