Originally posted by Adam GrimesSuperior skill and mobility with their weapons aka the metallic arm and shield. I've explained this multiple times, autistic wonder.
Then tell me, Radio, how do they overcome the blade-arms, strength, diamond/heat forms, ice and fire beams etc?Let your emotions out of this.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurderThat wasn't their objective. They survived.
The mutants couldnt defeat the Sentinels in direct combat...Changing time (and thereby preventing the confrontation from ever occurring) is the only thing that saved them in both cases...
Cap and WS dont have that option here; they both die horribly...
And yet they survived despite the odds and the overwhelming numbers. Sentinels really were shit.
Nah, they crush one sentinel who isn't very mobile, skilled or tactical.
Originally posted by quanchi112Because it's not speculation. There were millions of mutants when Xavier searched Cerebro in X2, and this took place afterwards so there is likely even more.
How do you know the mutants faced them off in the millions ? We go by what we see in the film not baseless speculation with silly numbers. 🙂
Originally posted by quanchi112
That wasn't their objective. They survived.And yet they survived despite the odds and the overwhelming numbers. Sentinels really were shit.
Nah, they crush one sentinel who isn't very mobile, skilled or tactical.
How do they crush a flaming being that they cant even safely get close to?
You're not making much sense here...
And your understanding of the movie is poor; the mutants survived by constantly fleeing the Sentinels (which they did by going back in time and warning themselves that the Sentinels were coming before they got there, so that they'd flee the area...preventing the encounter from ever happening)...
The mutants died every time they fought them directly...
But you've misinterpreted scenes from the movie already, so it makes sense that you dont fully understand the subject matter here...
Cap and WS die to the Sentinels just like the mutants did...
And you are wrong yet again; the Sentinels are very skilled, agile, and mobile...the intro of DoFP confirms this.
Wow I've missed so much in just a few hours
Originally posted by quanchi112
So you believe the reinforced door is comparable to WS's arm ? Prove it. Otherwise it's baseless claim. What about the shield ? Does it melt that too iyo ?
If you believe WS's arm can withstand the heat generated by the Sentinel then please provide any evidence to support your claim. Also WS getting close enough to punch the Sentinel puts him in extreme danger seeing as how it can grab him killing him nigh instantly
Originally posted by Arachnid1Were they organized ? How did the battle go down ? The nazis killed many Jews but were the Jews organized ? For ****s sake think for a moment. You lack all the context just baseless speculation. It's easy to tear such a baseless speculative argument to pieces. You lack all the variables.
Because it's not speculation. There were millions of mutants when Xavier searched Cerebro in X2, and this took place afterwards so there is likely even more.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurderWhy can't they get close to him ? Did the sentinel destroy the mutants or burn them when the flames got close ? Nah.
How do they crush a flaming being that they cant even safely get close to?You're not making much sense here...
And your understanding of the movie is poor; the mutants survived by constantly fleeing the Sentinels (which they did by going back in time and warning themselves that the Sentinels were coming before they got there, so that they'd flee the area...preventing the encounter from ever happening)...
The mutants died every time they fought them directly...
But you've misinterpreted scenes from the movie already, so it makes sense that you dont fully understand the subject matter here...
Cap and WS die to the Sentinels just like the mutants did...
And you are wrong yet again; the Sentinels are very skilled, agile, and mobile...the intro of DoFP confirms this.
You rarely make sense.
Yes, they had it down pat. A small number of them managed to avoid the detection of hundreds of sentinels until,the end but pulled through anyways.
They were overwhelmed by sheer numbers at the end when they did make their final stand. Superior numbers, sport.
Nah, they are fighting ONE. WERE THE MUTANTS FIGHTING ONE AT THE END OF THE FILM ? Nah.
They aren't skilled just use their abilities in a slow fashion. Cap and WS wreck one. They can't self repair their limbs so they can be broken. 🙂
Originally posted by juggermanYou made the claim. It is up to you to prove the door is greater than the arm so do so. The sentinels can't grab nuh instantly. Back that claim with real time. Let's time out their reflexes. WS can react and block gunfire for ****s sake. One Sentinel gets broken. Can't self repair those broken limbs, sport.
Wow I've missed so much in just a few hoursIf you believe WS's arm can withstand the heat generated by the Sentinel then please provide any evidence to support your claim. Also WS getting close enough to punch the Sentinel puts him in extreme danger seeing as how it can grab him killing him nigh instantly
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Originally posted by quanchi112
You made the claim. It is up to you to prove the door is greater than the arm so do so. The sentinels can't grab nuh instantly. Back that claim with real time. Let's time out their reflexes. WS can react and block gunfire for ****s sake. One Sentinel gets broken. Can't self repair those broken limbs, sport.😂
And I backed my claim with evidence of what the heat did. If you think the arm can withstand it then please provided evidence.
I can list several instances of WS and Cap getting hit by punches and kicks that were much slower than bullet speed.
Originally posted by juggermanYou made the claim the door is comparable to his metallic arm. Prove it.
And I backed my claim with evidence of what the heat did. If you think the arm can withstand it then please provided evidence.I can list several instances of WS and Cap getting hit by punches and kicks that were much slower than bullet speed.
From skilled opponents. Is the one sentinel skilled ?
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiSo you believe Colossus is immune to all damage to WS and Cap ? Based on ? Two sentinels tore him in half iirc. 😂
They continue to pound away on somebody EXPONENTIALLY stronger than them and more durable. God damn you're a moron. You're simply one of the worst debaters I've ever seen on this site.
Two Sentinels with HIS strength level tore him in half. Do you understand that Colossus is exponentially stronger than both of them combined right? So a sentinel adapting to Colossus and doing that, in no way shape or form means Cap and Bucky could. They are vastly weaker. They're going to pound on him LMAO LOL. God damn you're awful at this.
Originally posted by quanchi112
]Why can't they get close to him ? Did the sentinel destroy the mutants or burn them when the flames got close ? Nah
Why are you here if you cant remember what happened in the movie correctly? This is the 5th mistake you've made as regards this movie and the other referenced xmen movies as a whole...
You dont know the material; conceed, fall down to your knee's, and admit you dont know what you're talking about...
The Sentinel killed in both ways; some enemies were killed with the ranged attack, and one other was killed by close proximity to the flames (it grabbed Iceman and killed him in this fashion)...
You rarely make sense.
I make more sense in this debate than you do...
You thought the Sentinels only could win with superior numbers...
You thought there being millions of Mutants world wide was speculation...
You thought the Sentinels killed Bishop by burning him...
You didnt know the mutants only survived by fleeing from the Sentinels with time travel...
So yeah, alot of your argument just doesnt make sense... 😉
Yes, they had it down pat. A small number of them managed to avoid the detection of hundreds of sentinels until,the end but pulled through anyways.
Avoid detection? Yet again your ignorance here demonstrates itself; they never avoided Sentinel detection...the Sentinels always found them...always.
The mutants would relocate before the Sentinels arrived via time travel, but the Sentinels simply would track them down and that senario would repeat itself time and time again...
They were overwhelmed by sheer numbers at the end when they did make their final stand. Superior numbers, sport.
Your initial stance (which we crushed you on) was that the Sentinels needed superior numbers to beat the mutants...
The movies initial scene rendered your argument invalid as 3 Sentinels beat 7 mutants...
The force we see at the end of DoFP was overkill; plain and simple...
Nah, they are fighting ONE. WERE THE MUTANTS FIGHTING ONE AT THE END OF THE FILM ? Nah.
This one Sentinel is more powerful than Cap and WS combined; it has the powers of every mutant power they successfully used in the movie...
Cap and WS only win in your fanboy addled mind...
They aren't skilled just use their abilities in a slow fashion. Cap and WS wreck one. They can't self repair their limbs so they can be broken. 🙂
The Sentinels are very skilled; the movies opening sequence shows us this...
Cap and WS wont be able to break an arm off a Sentinel in flame form...
CQC is suicide for this team, but that is their only option here so they die...horribly.
Future Sentinel wins...
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