Silver Surfer vs The Elite

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Does Surfer get to use his powers in the same manner Superman did?

If he does that on general, sure.

By that I mean, the writer had Superman using his powers in clever and unusual ways. Oh, I'm sure there are other times he has used his powers in such a manner, this is Superman, with 1001 appearances in a month alone, but we can all agree he was doing FAR more than just 'punch punch laser eyes' type fighting.

With that said:
Menagerie - was taken out by toxins which disrupted the bond between her and her beasties. Surfer can replicate that.
The Hat - was suffocated through lack of air. Surfer can replicate that.
Coldcast - Was BFRd. Surfer can replicate that.
Chester - focussed concussion, although I believe Surfer can also do the lobotomy attack (by just transmuting it).

Superman had Coldcast exhaust himself with a major blast before he BFRed him where Coldcast had difficulty even flying. Not sure Surfer can do that. Superman is a far more tactical fighter than Surfer.

Also Manchester was unable to use his TP on Superman due to his mental shields being too strong.

That doesn't happens with Surfer.

As I said, his use of such powers are rare - he mainly flies around and blasts. But just as Superman didn't just punch, as he does in most of his appearances, if Surfer can use his powers in clever ways like Supes, then sure. And with the increased power variety he has, he has an even easier time of it.

Surfer isn't that much tactical fighter as Superman. So no.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
The moon they cracked was one of Neptune's moons:

http://cseligman.com/text/moons/neptunemoonpix.htm

Triton is the main one - accounts for about 90% of the moons. The others are all tiny - 200 km, or in a lot of cases, 50km in diameter. Most of them have a density 1 to 2 times that of water.

Still impressive, but nowhere near as impressive as when taken at face value.

Originally posted by Genii96
Cracking moons? Surfer threatened the earth by having a bad dream...

Go figure.

Originally posted by abhilegend
If he does that on general, sure.

Superman had Coldcast exhaust himself with a major blast before he BFRed him where Coldcast had difficulty even flying. Not sure Surfer can do that. Superman is a far more tactical fighter than Surfer.

Also Manchester was unable to use his TP on Superman due to his mental shields being too strong.

That doesn't happens with Surfer.

Surfer isn't that much tactical fighter as Superman. So no.

Originally posted by abhilegend
If he does that on general, sure.

Superman had Coldcast exhaust himself with a major blast before he BFRed him where Coldcast had difficulty even flying. Not sure Surfer can do that. Superman is a far more tactical fighter than Surfer.

Also Manchester was unable to use his TP on Superman due to his mental shields being too strong.

That doesn't happens with Surfer.

Surfer isn't that much tactical fighter as Superman. So no.

What are you suggesting? That Surfer with the most varied powerset in comics couldnt replicate Supermans fight? Im curious what your stand point on the fight is

Originally posted by Sin I AM
What are you suggesting? That Surfer with the most varied powerset in comics couldnt replicate Supermans fight? Im curious what your stand point on the fight is

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This thread isn't an if. It's a what.

Argue how you think Surfer will fight and why? Then conclude the victor.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Heck, Coldcast incapacitated Superman with a single attack.

Which damn, sure as f*ck means Surfer could take Supes out with a single attack then.

Originally posted by h1a8
This thread isn't an if. It's a what.

Argue how you think Surfer will fight and why? Then conclude the victor.

This thread is a thinly veiled attempt at more comparisons between Silver Surfer and Superman, surely you see that?

Originally posted by Sin I AM
What are you suggesting? That Surfer with the most varied powerset in comics couldnt replicate Supermans fight? Im curious what your stand point on the fight is

Why is Superman beating them supposed to mean that Surfer can do the same? Does Surfer had team busting feats that I'm unaware of?

Originally posted by Surtur
Which damn, sure as f*ck means Surfer could take Supes out with a single attack then.

I like how Surfer can automatically gain anybody else's feats.

Originally posted by Surtur
This thread is a thinly veiled attempt at more comparisons between Silver Surfer and Superman, surely you see that?

I thought we said Abhi wasn't allowed to make Surfer threads... mmm

Originally posted by abhilegend
Surfer uses neutrino wash effect which stops the brain function of someone? News to me.

Learning new things is fun, isn't it?

You sure about that?

Well gee lets see..*checks which user posted thread* Yeah I'm pretty sure about it.

Superman went about the fight in a clever way because he wanted to surprise manchester and teach thwm a lesson.

If he wanted to he couldve simply overpowered them. Which is what the Surfer will do

Originally posted by Surtur
Learning new things is fun, isn't it?

As fun as getting your teeth pulled.

Well gee lets see..*checks which user posted thread* Yeah I'm pretty sure about it.

I've created an Elite vs Surfer thread. Not Superman vs Surfer. I got the idea from ICT.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I thought we said Abhi wasn't allowed to make Surfer threads... mmm

Originally posted by krisblaze
Superman went about the fight in a clever way because he wanted to surprise manchester and teach thwm a lesson.

If he wanted to he couldve simply overpowered them. Which is what the Surfer will do

Like I said they defeated entire JLA and without Manchester and Hat defeated JSA. They are packing a lot of power.

Originally posted by abhilegend
As fun as getting your teeth pulled.

I know right? After I got my wisdom teeth pulled I got some vicodin, it was sweet.

I've created an Elite vs Surfer thread. Not Superman vs Surfer. I got the idea from ICT.

We all know why. For instance if people said Surfer loses..the next time Surfer vs Superman comes up you'd be saying "well Superman defeated the Elite, but Surfer can't and thus Supes rulez!".

It's also quite obvious you had your mind made up about who wins before you even posted.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Having varied power set doesn't grants you victory in a fight. Iron man is far more versatile than Hulk but pit them against each other and see what happens.

Why is Superman beating them supposed to mean that Surfer can do the same? Does Surfer had team busting feats that I'm unaware of?

True having a varied powerset does not automatically grant a win.

Your analogy falls flat though. Iron Man and Hulk arent in the same class. Now if you put Surfer againt Hulk then lets see what happens. Superman has nothing to do with the fight. A serious Surfer would destroy them. Team busting a jobbing team is a non feat.

Originally posted by Surtur
I know right? After I got my wisdom teeth pulled I got some vicodin, it was sweet.

How about getting all your teeth pulled?

We all know why. For instance if people said Surfer loses..the next time Surfer vs Superman comes up you'd be saying "well Superman defeated the Elite, but Surfer can't and thus Supes rulez!".

Superman didn't beat Elite straight up. So no, that'd be dumb.

It's also quite obvious you had your mind made up about who wins before you even posted.

Is that so? Are you a telepath too?

Originally posted by Sin I AM
True having a varied powerset does not automatically grant a win.

That's just what you said.

Your analogy falls flat though. Iron Man and Hulk arent in the same class. Now if you put Surfer againt Hulk then lets see what happens.

Yes, it's a competitive fight unless Surfer starts draining Hulk or Hulk overpowers Surfer and Namor together?

Superman has nothing to do with the fight. A serious Surfer would destroy them. Team busting a jobbing team is a non feat.

For this you must have a comparative team Surfer has destroyed in his career. Like ever?

Superman has indeed nothing to do with the thread. But just because Superman beat someone doesn't means Surfer can do the same.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Cracking moons and tossing enough energy to reignite suns isn't impressive enough for you?
A continent. He was also KTFO by a few meteors in the same comic.

Go figure.

A continent is larger than some (most) of Neptune's moons, so.....no, its not that impressive. Not to mention, rock is denser and harder than ice, even if it IS 2x ice's density.

Originally posted by abhilegend
If he does that on general, sure.

Superman had Coldcast exhaust himself with a major blast before he BFRed him where Coldcast had difficulty even flying. Not sure Surfer can do that. Superman is a far more tactical fighter than Surfer.

Also Manchester was unable to use his TP on Superman due to his mental shields being too strong.

That doesn't happens with Surfer.

Surfer isn't that much tactical fighter as Superman. So no.

Superman does not exist. His writer (who is the imaginative one) is. So....if Morrison was writing Surfer, he'd be as cool as Morrison's Superman. Kelly, writing a tactical Surfer, would be as tactical as Kelly's Superman.