Do social justice courses have any place in college?

Racism>Marxism>Communism>Facism= What do they all have in common?

They all have caused the most destructive wars in history which killed millions. It is ironic that most college professors teach this to their students. When I was in college my criminal justice and politics professor blamed democracy for America's problems. His said the Constitution was the problem and needed to be replaced. It pissed me off and I said straight to his face that the First Amendment gave him the right to preach his leftist views. What I was ashamed of was my fellow students refused to stand up to him.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Those sick liberal f*cks. Maybe those brainwashing centres need a little visit from conservatism's old friend...

They need a visit from reality and common sense not from..whoever the douche is you posted a picture of.

Seriously, I get that your thing is you do this and you don't really mean what you say and you indeed usually mean the exact opposite but man..I understand if you don't feel this stuff is a huge issue, but do you legitimately feel it's not an issue at all?

I feel one thing that causes some people to scream so loud over this stuff is because on the other side of this we have people who dismiss it as no biggie..like a 12 yr. old boy finding out for the first time cooties aren't actually a thing.

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
Alsol LOL@the idea of safe spaces on universities.

I do laugh at it too, but then I also kind of think of the descriptions of these safe spaces..even at what I thought were well respected universities like Brown..and it's just, I dunno.

I mean I don't hate puppies and I have nothing against play-doh or blowing bubbles and hey if I went to that school I might even go into such a safe space just for a laugh or if I was high but..the people that would go in there because they legit need it..kind of scare me in a way. Especially if they are there not due to any specific harassment but merely because there are just some ideas they legit can't handle. That worries me because those people will grow up(physically, not mentally) and procreate and pass these ideas down to their own children.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Those sick liberal f*cks. Maybe those brainwashing centres need a little visit from conservatism's old friend...

I have no idea who that is....but if you want I can put up a pic of any one of a large # of Socialist MONSTERS that you LIBERALS like to praise and tote like they were saints!

Wanna Play that Game!?

Originally posted by Surtur
They need a visit from reality and common sense not from..whoever the douche is you posted a picture of.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]I have no idea who that is....but if you want I can put up a pic of any one of a large # of Socialist MONSTERS that you LIBERALS like to praise and tote like they were saints!

Wanna Play that Game!? [/B]

Jesus Christ, people... seriously?

Originally posted by Surtur
Seriously, I get that your thing is you do this and you don't really mean what you say and you indeed usually mean the exact opposite but man..I understand if you don't feel this stuff is a huge issue, but do you legitimately feel it's not an issue at all?

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Do I feel what isn't an issue?

This out of control social justice shit that permeates our colleges and is even squirming its way into high schools and grammar schools.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien

Jesus Christ, people... seriously?

That happened 5 years ago. That guy is hardly a big topic of conversation anymore.

And that happened in Uber Liberal Socialist EuroCommie Land.....How did their Gun Laws work for em!?

Boy is my face red for not immediately recognizing terrorists from Norway that committed attacks years ago.

The f*ck? I doubt I could pick out most terrorists by their photo..besides Osama Bin Laden.

Originally posted by Surtur
This out of control social justice shit that permeates our colleges and is even squirming its way into high schools and grammar schools.

Universities and colleges have been around since the Medieval era, and ever since their inception they've been a focal point for professors and lecturers to impress their ideas on the young susceptible minds that came to them for an education (usually in theology). At least in the modern age we don't have full on blood baths in the streets as students fought over which ideology they were being brainwashed with.

Every generation thinks its youth is being mentally and socially poisoned by some insidious corruption---that the said corruption always seems to come from the opposite end of the critic's political spectrum never seems of any nevermind. You aren't the first to complain about an apparent change for the worse in the schooling system that heralds the decline of civilization. And you won't be the last. 1000 years from now and you still won't see the last.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]That happened 5 years ago. That guy is hardly a big topic of conversation anymore.

And that happened in Uber Liberal Socialist EuroCommie Land.....How did their Gun Laws work for em!? [/B]

Originally posted by Surtur
Boy is my face red for not immediately recognizing terrorists from Norway that committed attacks years ago.

The f*ck? I doubt I could pick out most terrorists by their photo..besides Osama Bin Laden.

Well we could just make jokes that he put up a pic of a Blond haired Blue Eyed Norwegian and then wanted us to point out a specific one.....

🤣

Oh it's certainly true every generation thinks these is a corruption in the next. A lot of times it doesn't make sense, but is that the case 100% of the time? I don't know.

Like okay back in the day the people who were all "Grr this damn new fangled Rock and Roll, these f*cking kids!" yeah, that is silly. But this legit corruption of knowledge? Ehhh. I mean some schools have asked children to choose a gender lol. Not teens or college kids, but like..kids who are still many years away from being able to see a PG-13 movie without a parent coming with.

Or I could tell you about the school(again, not a high school or college) who essentially gave black kids treats(specifically only blacks) because of past white racism and all that and essentially told the white students how awful they were and all that. These are relatively minor things that could start a strange precedent. I mean I don't care if someone is of the opinion we have 100 different legit genders, I would hope most people could agree they shouldn't be telling young children to choose a gender. Let them develop. This happened in New York in case you wanted to look it up for yourself in order to see I'm not just making things up or wildly exaggerating events.

That does bring up the topic of Counter Culture. This guy was talking about how now the Leftist Crazies now ran out colleges and wondered what the "New" counter culture group will be that rises up to stand against it.

Much like how the LIBERAL Hippy movement rose up back in the 60's.

Originally posted by Surtur
Oh it's certainly true every generation thinks these is a corruption in the next. A lot of times it doesn't make sense, but is that the case 100% of the time? I don't know.

Like okay back in the day the people who were all "Grr this damn new fangled Rock and Roll, these f*cking kids!" yeah, that is silly. But this legit corruption of knowledge? Ehhh. I mean some schools have asked children to choose a gender lol. Not teens or college kids, but like..kids who are still many years away from being able to see a PG-13 movie without a parent coming with.

Really dissect the meat of what you feel the problem is.

You have to ask why the SJW is bad? Why asking little kids to choose a gender is bad? Or why stuff like this is bad:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2016/08/26/stop-white-people-program-binghamton-university-draws-controversy/89397802/

I just named a few examples of stuff people do in the name of "social justice". Other things include the insistence there is a rape culture, which I don't think requires a "why this is bad" explanation.

*sigh* that's what I don't want you to do. Just listing of examples of things you don't like. I want you to describe why this stuff is "bad" (again, poor word to use, to nebulous). Why does it bother you? Don't list a single example, just describe your own feelings on it.

EDIT: Understand, I'm not trying to prove you wrong. But it's alot easier to have a proper discussion on a topic when we actually understand each other. Just slinging barbs and citing examples that emphasize our hatred or fear doesn't accomplish anything---just look at this site: no one ever convinces anyone of the merits of their way of thinking or gets anyone to adopt the validity of their opinions. It's all just hyperlinks, YouTube embeds, and insults.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
*sigh* that's what I don't want you to do. Just listing of examples of things you don't like. I want you to describe why this stuff is "bad" (again, poor word to use, to nebulous). Why does it bother you? Don't list a single example, just describe your own feelings on it.

What you are asking for makes no sense to me. You say why do I think the stuff is bad, but then you say don't list examples. So I can only interpret that as you asking why overall social justice is bad? Which I don't think legit social justice is bad. One reason I have a problem with SJW's is that I feel it does a disservice to everyone around us when people have to make up things or inflate things in order to press some kind of agenda and then it. We live in a society with real issues. Women do face issues, there is still rape and abuse and all that so I don't think the stuff needs to be lied about.

But this also does need examples because it's also a case by case basis. For me it's like a poison and just like with poison in the real world the potency can vary. I'm not naive I don't feel this is going to literally destroy the world. I do think it can set us on the slow path of things just being..shittier for us. Shittier for our kids and our kids kids.

We have a responsibility to address the real issues in the nation and not to waste times with the things SJW's like to focus on.

When people with good intentions--and I do say they have those, regardless of how counterproductive their results may be--meddle and interfere with things for the sake of improvement... they're meddlers, not SJWs. This is why I have a problem with the labeling and naming we love to dish out. Now the 'SJW' pejorative has started to mar the very words 'social justice'. So we get caught up with those buzzwords that the guy with green text up there likes to throw out for the sake of incense. It's why I spend so much time mocking them. F*cking LIBTARD! See, goes nowhere and means nothing--just emotion, nothing more. Getting caught up in a case-by-case basis also skews perception. It's akin to the phenomena where people think the world is "going to hell in a handbasket" because of all the negative reports in the media. Well bad news sells, and controversial news sells even more. It distorts our perception of the balance between reality v. reporting of reality.

So in regards to those people "pressing their agenda", what of it? If it's a cynical, dishonest, marketable agenda designed for inciting the public to... make money or gain power (or whatever), then yeah, I hear ya. F*ck that agenda. But what if their agenda is to make the state, or the city, or the school, or the world a better place--as THEY define "better?" What makes that type of agenda "bad" (again, that word)? What makes it wrong, or destructive even? And do you have an alternative in mind to what they want? Why is yours better? Why is theirs unworthy?

In any agenda (or movement, or organization, or party, or policy--whatever), you're gonna come across an unfortunate amount of people who either twist the ideas to suit their own preconceptions or desires, or who misinterpret them, or who just don't live up to them (hypocrites). Those people are unavoidable, and sometimes even innocent of malicious intent, but their actions don't discredit the agenda (or organization, or movement, or party etc.) or it's values as a whole. Only the agenda itself can do that. So what is wrong with the agenda of social justice?

But again nothing is wrong with social justice. True social justice though..not something twisted. For example take the rape culture. That is a SJW type of thing. However, rape does happen here. It's an issue and it needs to be addressed. Just to give one issue..rape victims who do not come forward. People going out there addressing these issues in order to make victims feel safe and okay in coming forward..that is a worthwhile social justice endeavor. Programs to help victims deal with the aftermath of a rape? Worthwhile. Just raising overall awareness is worthwhile too.

But going "1 and 5 women will be raped!" and "oh nobody cares about rape at all" is toxic and does harm. The narrative that cops often don't believe rape victims(not true) also causes harm and can cause legit victims to believe that crap and not come forward. Just like the narrative that college campuses are crawling with rapists when you're actually less likely to be raped there if you're a female of college age.

You are correct another term for the SJW's would be preferable since I realize some take this to mean you think all social justice is bad.

Oh and here is a great essay:

In College and Hiding From Scary Ideas

If only these poor kids could stay in college where they are totally safe from reality for EVER!!!!!!! And how I wish they could stay there forever too......

Colleges used to be centers of higher learning, now they are just really expensive daycare centers.