Kas'im vs Plo Koon

Started by Nephthys10 pages
Originally posted by The Ellimist
Lol, in other words he created enough sequences for a trainee to learn.

You typically need to train to master a form. 😬

Kas'im seems to have basically redesigned the forms using his own moves and sequences. He did this for every form and seeming every style. That's an example of a massive understanding of the forms and a bewildering technical and creative aptitude in them.

Freshest tbf Kopecz did say something like a Sith Lord was worth a thousand soldiers, but that doesn't really mean much - it doesn't mean a Sith Lord could beat a thousand soldiers in an open firefight, kek.

Originally posted by Nephthys
You typically need to train to master a form. 😬

Kas'im seems to have basically redesigned the forms using his own moves and sequences. He did this for every form and seeming every style. That's an example of a massive understanding of the forms and a bewildering technical and creative aptitude in them.

Everyone can modify forms. Canon Anakin just casually mentions that he modifies form IV to deal with droids in one random hologram call, kek. Kas'im just does that seven times - it's a matter of taking the time to do it. So what are you trying to do? Signal his technical skill? Null, as explained. Suggest he'd have unfamiliar moves for Plo? Works both ways. Nothing to show here.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Everyone can modify forms. Canon Anakin just casually mentions that he modifies form IV to deal with droids in one random hologram call, kek. Kas'im just does that seven times - it's a matter of taking the time to do it. So what are you trying to do? Signal his technical skill? Null, as explained. Suggest he'd have unfamiliar moves for Plo? Works both ways. Nothing to show here.

I already responded to this point. Try again, my child.

Also it's not as if a comparison to Anakin is unwelcome in this case. 😉

Plo benefits from 1,000 years of modification and improvement to lightsaber combat. Kas'im can't handle the level of baffling bewilderment that will cause. 🙂

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Freshest tbf Kopecz did say something like a Sith Lord was worth a thousand soldiers, but that doesn't really mean much - it doesn't mean a Sith Lord could beat a thousand soldiers in an open firefight, kek.

Yeah, not seeing that in PoD at all.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Also it's not as if a comparison to Anakin is unwelcome in this case. 😉
lol 👆

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Plo benefits from 1,000 years of modification and improvement to lightsaber combat. Kas'im can't handle the level of baffling bewilderment that will cause. 🙂

Thing is, you're not even wrong.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Plo benefits from 1,000 years of modification and improvement to lightsaber combat. Kas'im can't handle the level of baffling bewilderment that will cause. 🙂

A thousand years of stagnation and of the Jedi mostly neglecting to even bother with saber to saber combat with no foes to fight, sure.

That nonetheless produced some of the greatest lightsaber duelists in mythos and the perfection of Juyo. mmm

Kek, the PT Jedi are the most powerful and skilled to that point in history.

Plo specifically specialized in a Form designed for saber to saber combat and disarmed someone trained in the purest lightsaber combat form (Ventress). 😉

Plo wasn't around for those 1000 years though. His enthusiasm isn't reflective of the Orders history. Nor, do I think, is it said that he improved upon existing techniques in any regard.

Seriously, this is like putting the best boxer from the 19th century against a modern contender.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Plo wasn't around for those 1000 years though. His enthusiasm isn't reflective of the Orders history. Nor, do I think, is it said that he improved upon existing techniques in any regard.
Lol you're not getting the point. After 1,000 years Djem So as a form would have been significantly improved, and Plo would have inherented those improvements by learning and perfecting the modern style. Because you know, people actually record this shit. 👆

Originally posted by Nephthys
A thousand years of stagnation and of the Jedi mostly neglecting to even bother with saber to saber combat with no foes to fight, sure.

As opposed to a thousand years of basically throwing people they pulled off the street at each other?

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Seriously, this is like putting the best boxer from the 19th century against a modern contender.

SW is notable for its lack of progression between era's. Or, often, outright regression.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Lol you're not getting the point. After 1,000 years Djem So as a form would have been significantly improved, and Plo would have inherented those improvements by learning and perfecting the modern style. Because you know, people actually record this shit. 👆

This isn't reflected anywhere and is pure supposition. My argument is just as valid.

It's reflected by the fact that improvements were made to forms during the PT era itself, an era that possessed a concentrated abundance of many of the greatest duelists in mythos, and that its entirely illogical to think various Jedi Masters would not have themselves made improvements over a thousand year period. 😂

Your argument is made on baseless assertions, there is no evidence that the pre-Ruusan Jedi didn't bother with lightsaber combat, only Makashi became obsolete.

Originally posted by Nephthys
SW is notable for its lack of progression between era's. Or, often, outright regression.

I remember zero statements about the Jedi's regression in lightsaber forms.

Ulic Qel-Droma vs. Plo Koon? mmm