Originally posted by carver9
Did he write it in the story when it happened?
Is it unique to the story?
When Superman first appeared, he could only leap over tall buildings. Later on, his powers were expanded and detailed upon.
Wolverine originally did not have the claws as part of his anatomy.
Flash could just run really fast. Later, the Speed Force was invented and expanded upon.
Shall we ignore the Speed force in vs forums? X-genes? Superman and flying?
I'm not sure what your point is. The creator of the 'Herc' unit, Pak, has written that it is mystical in nature. AFTER the original story. Moreover, he never wrote that it was a strength unit - he writes the general as asking if Herc is as strong as the Hulk.
After all, we already have physical energy units. Why would a scientist coin more - and moreover, relate them to a magical character (are there no other strongmen in the Marvel U??)
Edit: we take the latest definition, or standard, as per the forum rules.
If tomorrow, Pak writes that a Herc is a physical unit, then all is forgiven and I will back down and apologise. But as it stands, right now, in 2016, it is a mystical unit.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Is it unique to the story?When Superman first appeared, he could only leap over tall buildings. Later on, his powers were expanded and detailed upon.
Wolverine originally did not have the claws as part of his anatomy.
Flash could just run really fast. Later, the Speed Force was invented and expanded upon.
Shall we ignore the Speed force in vs forums? X-genes? Superman and flying?
I'm not sure what your point is. The creator of the 'Herc' unit, Pak, has written that it is mystical in nature. AFTER the original story. Moreover, he never wrote that it was a strength unit - he writes the general as asking if Herc is as strong as the Hulk.
After all, we already have physical energy units. Why would a scientist coin more - and moreover, relate them to a magical character (are there no other strongmen in the Marvel U??)
Edit: we take the latest definition, or standard, as per the forum rules.
If tomorrow, Pak writes that a Herc is a physical unit, then all is forgiven and I will back down and apologise. But as it stands, right now, in 2016, it is a mystical unit.
Amazing strength showing for Hulk.
So Hulk lungs can take 113 hercs of mystical energy while calm, but his nose can only take 1 herc of FORCE on the nose while enraged.
Poor Carvy, he failed the hulk once more
Originally posted by DarkSaint85This is a misinterpretation. It's clearly a scale system for potency of energy based on Hercules' power output, Hercules' strength being mystically granted and all that cause as we both know he can be with or without it
When the feat was done, it never said strength. It merely said energy.Later on, Pak clarified that it was MYSTIC energy.
Beating up Carver for answers doesn't seem to be working and you guys seem to already know that going into it so why keep doing it?
Originally posted by Rao Kal ElLets put it this way.
Lets put it this way.Martian manhunter generates zero hercs of mystical units. But he packs a lot of lbs on his punch
In one corner with have someone measuring one herc equals maximum amount of force Herc can unleash in a single punch
Other corner with have a someone measuring one herc equals 1.3 of Hercs power.
Take your pick and actually try to argue which is more usable. Don't argue with me though, i'm just pointing out facts from the panels itself.
Edit: Oh and even though the scan, where 1 herc equals to 1.3 of hercs power, apparently came later. It really does not necessarily mean Pak was clarifying or ret-con, if you will, as 1 herc equals to this or that. Honestly, i think both are slightly different situations. As far as from my knowledge goes, those are two separate parties trying to use the ''herc'' measurement are they not?