Hulk's lungs vs Thor, Superman, Hercules, Captain Marvel

Originally posted by TheHulk
Lets put it this way.

In one corner with have someone measuring one herc equals maximum amount of force Herc can unleash in a single punch

Other corner with have a someone measuring one herc equals 1.3 of Hercs power.

Take your pick and actually try to argue which is more usable. Don't argue with me though, i'm just pointing out facts from the panels itself.

The only time the word mystical was used were during the time said monster was amped by the mystical power of the wishing well. Outside of this, everything else was measure physically using the Herc metric.

Originally posted by TheHulk
Lets put it this way.

In one corner with have someone measuring one herc equals maximum amount of force Herc can unleash in a single punch

Other corner with have a someone measuring one herc equals 1.3 of Hercs power.

Take your pick and actually try to argue which is more usable. Don't argue with me though, i'm just pointing out facts from the panels itself.

Edit: Oh and even though the scan, where 1 herc equals to 1.3 of hercs power, apparently came later. It really does not necessarily mean Pak was clarifying or ret-con, if you will, as 1 herc equals to this or that. Honestly, i think both are slightly different situations. As far as from my knowledge goes, those are two separate parties trying to use the ''herc'' measurement are they not?

Is clear as day.

1 herc is the maximum amount of MYSTICAL units released in Hercules punch.

MYSTICAL units, not FORCE.

The scan presented by Darksaint is from PAK.

You might take it as you wish personally, but if brought into a debate 1 herc is not = force. The scan says clearly that is a MYSTICAL unit.

Originally posted by carver9
The only time the word mystical was used were during the time said monster was amped by the mystical power of the wishing well. Outside of this, everything else was measure physically using the Herc metric.

Carver fails again 😂

Originally posted by TheHulk
Lets put it this way.

In one corner with have someone measuring one herc equals maximum amount of force Herc can unleash in a single punch

Other corner with have a someone measuring one herc equals 1.3 of Hercs power.

Take your pick and actually try to argue which is more usable. Don't argue with me though, i'm just pointing out facts from the panels itself.

Edit: Oh and even though the scan, where 1 herc equals to 1.3 of hercs power, apparently came later. It really does not necessarily mean Pak was clarifying or ret-con, if you will, as 1 herc equals to this or that. Honestly, i think both are slightly different situations. As far as from my knowledge goes, those are two separate parties trying to use the ''herc'' measurement are they not?

Yep. The Unit were measure off of Herc full power in a single hit, not some magical blast.

Originally posted by carver9
Yep. The Unit were measure off of Herc full power in a single hit, not some magical blast.

😂

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Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Is clear as day.

1 herc is the maximum amount of MYSTICAL units released in Hercules punch.

MYSTICAL units, not FORCE.

The scan presented by Darksaint is from PAK.

You might take it as you wish personally, but if brought into a debate 1 herc is not = force. The scan says clearly that is a MYSTICAL unit.

And here it says otherwise! I'm not saying it is an actual measurement of force. But is just a certain measurement of how much force herc can unleash in a single punch. Yes is almost the same thing but at least realize the difference.

''ONE HERC IS EQUIVALENT TO THE MAXIMUM OF AMOUNT OF ENERGY HERCULES CAN EXPEND IN ONE BLOW''

It's right here Rao....it's right...freaking here.....

What kind of energy?

Answer: Scan does not say.

Later on, Pak clarifies what Hercs measure. As carver points out, none of them exist, only Pak.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
What kind of energy?

Answer: Scan does not say.

Later on, Pak clarifies what Hercs measure. As carver points out, none of them exist, only Pak.

Originally posted by TheHulk
Oh and even though the scan, where 1 herc equals to 1.3 of hercs power, apparently came later. It really does not necessarily mean Pak was clarifying or ret-con, if you will, as 1 herc equals to this or that. Honestly, i think both are slightly different situations. As far as from my knowledge goes, those are two separate parties trying to use the ''herc'' measurement are they not?

Or that a demigod like Hercules has mystical energy within him, which is what gives him his strength. Just like Wraith has XYZ GW of energy within him or whatever.

With regards to tour second post, it was Baba Yaga's chicken leg house that was equal to 1.3 Hercs. Old Hercs. At the time, the NEW Herc was a mere mortal human.

As for two separate parties, the writer for both scans was Pak, the only user of Hercs. So we take the latest definition, especially if its by the same writer.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Or that a demigod like Hercules has mystical energy within him, which is what gives him his strength. Just like Wraith has XYZ GW of energy within him or whatever.

With regards to tour second post, it was Baba Yaga's chicken leg house that was equal to 1.3 Hercs. Old Hercs. At the time, the NEW Herc was a mere mortal human.

As for two separate parties, the writer for both scans was Pak, the only user of Hercs. So we take the latest definition, especially if its by the same writer.

My memory is not what it used to be but was Herc powerless by the time issue 627 came out? Because that would explain a lot. 1.3 of his old self will make for sense. Because what we are talking about is one blow from Herc, regardless of his level of power.

Writers intent can be heavily discussed though

Originally posted by TheHulk
I hear you DS, but i cannot link mystical energy along with Hercules punching power(at least the way you are describing it). It's like measuring Hulks punch by the amount of gamma that imbues Hulks body or Thor's mightiest hammer swing based on the amount of power he can channel to Mjolnir, even though he shows no sign of channeling it.

My memory is not what it used to be but was Herc powerless by the time issue 627 came out? Because that would explain a lot. 1.3 of his old self will make for sense.

Writers intent can be heavily discussed though

Fair enough! I mean, this thread to me has run its course, but FWIW, yes, I reckon it IS the way your first paragraph puts it - as weird as it seems.

Herc was NOT powerless at IH#627. My scan was from Herc #3 or something like that.

Personally, not a fan of discussing writer's intent...that way lies h1 madness.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Fair enough! I mean, this thread to me has run its course, but FWIW, yes, I reckon it IS the way your first paragraph puts it - as weird as it seems.

Herc was NOT powerless at IH#627. My scan was from Herc #3 or something like that.

Personally, not a fan of discussing writer's intent...that way lies h1 madness.

I mean...that means Hercules can only expend 1.3 of his power in one blow? I mean that statement in 627 was made before Herc was depowered as you said. This sh!t does not make sense 😂 I mean Superman does not unleash solar energy as he punches someone 😂

Agreed, i also dislike discussing Writers intent...too much variables.

Edit: Damn you Pak

Originally posted by TheHulk
First thing first, see Carver and Rao? Is it so hard to have a discussion without trying to insult each other? Look at me and DS 😂

I mean...that means Hercules can only expend 1.3 of his power in one blow? I mean that statement in 627 was made before Herc was depowered as you said. This sh!t does not make sense 😂 I mean Superman does not unleash solar energy as he punches someone 😂

Agreed, i also dislike discussing Writers intent...too much variables.

Edit: Damn you Pak

Carver and Rao both suck, unlike us.

No, it meant that Baba Yaga's chicken leg house was as powerful - mystically - as 1.3 Hercs, back when he was Immortal Hercules and had powers.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Carver and Rao both suck, unlike us.

No, it meant that Baba Yaga's chicken leg house was as powerful - mystically - as 1.3 Hercs, back when he was Immortal Hercules and had powers.

Baba Yaga's chicken leg 😆 😆 Just realize how ridiculous that sounds. Either way okay i get that part. But then what happen to the statement in IH#627 with one herc equals to one blow from herc? Now it's 1.3 of Hercules original power? Honestly, i don't mind actual clarification from Pak by now.

Nice argument of incredulity. Nothing more to say.

You just said it "personally" nothing more to add there. 🙂

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Nice argument of incredulity. Nothing more to say.

You just said it "personally" nothing more to add there. 🙂

Originally posted by TheHulk
Who are you referring to Rao? Either way, it can be looked upon in the two different lights. Let it be.

Only one light.

Originally posted by TheHulk
Who are you referring to Rao? Either way, it can be looked upon in the two different lights. Let it be.

To you my friend.

Your argument doesn't hold based on the scans presented but this is something I don't want to take any further.

I am happy with the results of this thread and the scan cannot be sold as a strength feat anymore like the hulk fans try to sell it. So there is nothing more to add in here.

Originally posted by carver9
Only one light.

Yes mystical units 😂

Hulk's appendix could solo these four.