Ikaris vs Captain Marvel (Billy)

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Distorting ones mind during a fight is a HUGE advantage. If I can inhibit your sense to clock you, you are in big trouble. It doesn't have to be flat out mind control.

Thats my stance, and i wont beat it into the ground any further.
Someone wants to make a case on a physical battle, i'm all ears. Mind control? Done and done for me.

CM wins this one.
As for people who want to know who is the strongest superhero in DC(Pre-Flashpoint), the editor of DC Comics Charles Kochman gave the answer to that question.
http://imgur.com/3ec2lFV
"If one were to indulge in that favorite childhood pastime of 'Who is stronger than whom?', for my money, Captain Marvel was strongest of them all.' - Charles Kochman.

Neat. Totally saving that 👆

CM wins these, Ikaris is good but he's not Superman, Thor, Hyperion, majestic etc he doesn't have the dynamic strength to contend. Even he can amp, so can CM if he want to be a dick combining his power of Zeus, atlas, I think he has done it before

Originally posted by riv6672
What exactly did he write?!?

Nice, he did that in maybe 10 seconds judging by the dialogue around him.

Wrote a large continent sized sentence with clouds in that time.

If you're lightspeed, you could cross around the equator like 8 times in a second.

Billy's feat is a lot more complex than simply flying in a straight line.

Wouldn't surprise me if its a lighspeed+ feat, certainly at least relativistic.

Ikaris' showing against Namor and others was beastly.

Pre-FP Billy may be on another level, though. DC characters in the herald tier tend to be.

Originally posted by MaZeRaIII
CM wins this one.
As for people who want to know who is the strongest superhero in DC(Pre-Flashpoint), the editor of DC Comics Charles Kochman gave the answer to that question.
http://imgur.com/3ec2lFV
"If one were to indulge in that favorite childhood pastime of 'Who is stronger than whom?', for my money, Captain Marvel was strongest of them all.' - Charles Kochman.

😂

Originally posted by abhilegend
Going by an editor's opinion?

😂

You'd want it to be Superman? facepalm

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
You'd want it to be Superman? facepalm

So, no need for an opinion from an Editor.

Originally posted by riv6672
To which i can only respond:

Your "stance" is based on you ignoring one characters known power set and also the other character's lack of defense to it.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Ikaris' showing against Namor and others was beastly.

Pre-FP Billy may be on another level, though. DC characters in the herald tier tend to be.

Ikaris in in the herald tier.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Going by an editor's opinion?

😂

We should go by yours? 😆 😆 😆

Yes.

Billy wins more often than not.

Billy 7-8/10

Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman has been described as strongest being on Earth several times on panel.

So, no need for an opinion from an Editor.

Actually, Charles Kochman(DC Editor) is not the only person to say that Captain Marvel is the strongest, Alex Ross himself said the same thing, twice.
http://imgur.com/e44ssfi
http://imgur.com/fzAY0J9
We even have Jerry Ordway(the writer of Power of Shazam graphic novel and series) to say that Cap with his speed can match Flash in race(after all let's not forget that Flash was outrunned by both Hermes and Mercury).
http://imgur.com/TLTJwfC

As for people who say that editor's words don't matter that's dumb thing to say, they are the one who allow the characters have their powerlevels, they are above writers, if they say something then it becomes a fact. Also just because Superman was stated to be strongest doesn't meant he is, Black Adam and Marvel were stated to be omnipotent and all-powerful, Darkseid was stated to omnipotent, WW was stated to be second only to Supes, yet there are many characters who are stronger than WW, and so on...

Your words are wise, and will fall on many deaf ears.