Originally posted by Adam Grimes
The mind gem and celestials haven't done shit so far.
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They are completely featless (well the Celestial did use the Infinity Gem to [it appeared] terraform that planets surface; but thats a feat for the Gem, not the Celestial)...
As is Thanos; at current, the only thing Thanos has shown is the ability to sit in a chair and give orders...
Originally posted by Nibedicus
I would think what the Celestials did would be the exact opposite (by definition) of terraforming...
Maybe so, my memory of that scene is a bit foggy; I honestly cant remember if it was destroying the landscape in that scene or changing it...
But I do remember it being implied that the Gem was being used there...
Originally posted by Estacado
Well Superman and Doomsday seem to be stronger then the likes of Thor and Hulk but overall Marvel characters are more powerful.Like Surfer, Phoenix, Apocalypse, Magneto.......etc
I think people are separating the Fox Marvel movie characters like Surfer/Phoenix from the MCU Proper movie characters like like Thor and Hulk.
Although hopefully the MCU Proper will have Silver Surfer and Galactus soon.
Originally posted by NemeBro
DC heroes are both far superior in power than Marvel's and DC also has better fight choreography for the most part. The Captain America movies are pretty good choreography-wise, but the actual super-powered fights leave much to be desired.
I'd have to disagree about the fight choreography. DC movies have almost no decent fight scenes. Clark vs. Faora was good as well as Batman's warehouse fight scene but all the others were crappy.
On the other hand, the MCU has Thor vs. IM, Thor vs. Hulk, the Antman fight scenes, AOU fight scenes and a bunch of others. While not exactly at the level of TWS or CW, they are still way better than DC fight scenes.
Originally posted by FrothByteHow exactly do you think Thor vs. Hulk is better than Superman vs. any of the Kryptonians in Man of Steel? Or even Thor vs. IM.
I'd have to disagree about the fight choreography. DC movies have almost no decent fight scenes. Clark vs. Faora was good as well as Batman's warehouse fight scene but all the others were crappy.On the other hand, the MCU has Thor vs. IM, Thor vs. Hulk, the Antman fight scenes, AOU fight scenes and a bunch of others. While not exactly at the level of TWS or CW, they are still way better than DC fight scenes.
Marvel portrays their super-powered characters as too slow and lumbering to be as enjoyable as the actual super-powered slobber-knockers DC has.
Thor vs. Hulk consisted of Hulk punching, Thor catching it, Thor being punched again, then Thor hitting Hulk with a hammer. Then Thor jumped on Hulk's back and clumsily tried to strangle him, then Hulk pulls Thor off of him and slams him on the ground before the fight is interrupted.
Maybe choreography is the wrong word, but I much prefer Superman's legitimately high-powered fight with Zod to Thor and Hulk's standard slug-fest.
I can't comment on AOU or Antman. Haven't seen them.
Originally posted by NemeBro
How exactly do you think Thor vs. Hulk is better than Superman vs. any of the Kryptonians in Man of Steel? Or even Thor vs. IM.Marvel portrays their super-powered characters as too slow and lumbering to be as enjoyable as the actual super-powered slobber-knockers DC has.
Thor vs. Hulk consisted of Hulk punching, Thor catching it, Thor being punched again, then Thor hitting Hulk with a hammer. Then Thor jumped on Hulk's back and clumsily tried to strangle him, then Hulk pulls Thor off of him and slams him on the ground before the fight is interrupted.
Maybe choreography is the wrong word, but I much prefer Superman's legitimately high-powered fight with Zod to Thor and Hulk's standard slug-fest.
I can't comment on AOU or Antman. Haven't seen them.
Superman vs. Faora - and to an extent Superman vs. Faora/Namek - were good. I'll grant you that. But Superman vs. Zod? That entire fight consisted of them flying around and punching each other. You really consider that better choreography than Thor vs. Ironman? At least in that fight they got a bit more creative. Same with Thor vs. Hulk. Like I said, those weren't the best fights either but they're better than 2 guys just flying around and punching each other.
Then there's Cap vs. Ultron, Hulk vs. Hulkbuster, The opening sequence of AOU... tell me, what other fight sequences can you pull from DC that can compete with these? You mentioned MOS but are there other fight scenes from DC movies you'd like to bring to the table? You could always bring up Watchmen ofcourse, but then that would get trumped by WS or CW.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Superman vs. Faora - and to an extent Superman vs. Faora/Namek - were good. I'll grant you that. But Superman vs. Zod? That entire fight consisted of them flying around and punching each other. You really consider that better choreography than Thor vs. Ironman? At least in that fight they got a bit more creative. Same with Thor vs. Hulk. Like I said, those weren't the best fights either but they're better than 2 guys just flying around and punching each other.Then there's Cap vs. Ultron, Hulk vs. Hulkbuster, The opening sequence of AOU... tell me, what other fight sequences can you pull from DC that can compete with these? You mentioned MOS but are there other fight scenes from DC movies you'd like to bring to the table? You could always bring up Watchmen ofcourse, but then that would get trumped by WS or CW.
Hulk vs Hulkbuster is cool but it kind of worked against itself towards the end of the fight. Then again I'm not sure a real comparison could be given as the DCEU only has two movies. With that said if the Batman vs Joker chase in TDK counts I'd put that in.
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
I have to disagree with Thor vs Ironman being that much better. Considering how powerful the characters are supposed to be I was a bit underwhelmed by how tame the encounter was. Maybe its different taste but I think I prefer the over the top Metropolis fight between Zod and Superman.Hulk vs Hulkbuster is cool but it kind of worked against itself towards the end of the fight. Then again I'm not sure a real comparison could be given as the DCEU only has two movies. With that said if the Batman vs Joker chase in TDK counts I'd put that in.
You're confusing power levels with fight choreography. From what it sounds like, it seems you have an issue with MCU's power levels. That's fine, I have an issue with it too. A lot of the stronger characters get nerfed and don't really display their true power.
But what I'm arguing is fight choreography. Thor vs. Ironman had better choreography than Zod vs. Superman simply because Zod vs. Superman didn't really do much other than punch and fly.
The funny thing about Marvel is that their characters tend to fluctuate in power levels based on the needs of the story (and to allow the other characters to shine). The highs are pretty high but the lows can make you scratch your head (kinda like Iron Man's armor being torn like paper by them Extremis goons when it survived a DIRECT hit from a tank's main gun).
DC characters' power levels tend to be shown at a more consistent level (IMO). Thus the overall perception of their power levels tend to be set at their peak while the perceptions of marvel power levels tend to be subjective to the viewer and w/c showings you remember better.
Originally posted by Nibedicus
(kinda like Iron Man's armor being torn like paper by them Extremis goons when it survived a DIRECT hit from a tank's main gun).
IM3 sucked, but if Black's extremis mutates are anywhere near power-wise to comic versions, then they pack much more of a punch than something as primitive as a tank.
Mallen has raped Tony who was wearing his post-Pentagon, pre-Extremis suit...
And other Extremis mutate was able to fight Doc Samson...