Originally posted by Beniboybling
✅Also Shaak Ti has established Force bonds with much of the planet's flora and fauna, and with everything on Felucia saturated and strong in the Force, it stands to reason these bonds amplified her powers.
And when you consider that she had the "entire planet at her command", that would be a significant amp indeed. 👆
Yep.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
✅Also Shaak Ti has established Force bonds with much of the planet's flora and fauna, and with everything on Felucia saturated and strong in the Force, it stands to reason these bonds amplified her powers.
And when you consider that she had the "entire planet at her command", that would be a significant amp indeed. 👆
Source? Seems like baseless fanon 🙂
Because Meetra Surik and Shaak Ti even remotely share the same traits, any legitimate statement calling Felucia a light side nexus? For that matter one calling it a dark side nexus? Because all of those claims get debunked in The Force Unleashed Campaign Guide.
Neither Ti or Marek were amped/hindered there because Felucia has an unusually strong connection to the Living Force. The presence of any Force user can change the alignment of the planet to either dark or light, that doesn't make it a nexus either way.
Originally posted by AncientPower
Because Meetra Surik and Shaak Ti even remotely share the same traits, any legitimate statement calling Felucia a light side nexus? For that matter one calling it a dark side nexus? Because all of those claims get debunked in The Force Unleashed Campaign Guide.Neither Ti or Marek were amped/hindered there because Felucia has an unusually strong connection to the Living Force. The presence of any Force user can change the alignment of the planet to either dark or light, that doesn't make it a nexus either way.
It's force alignment was stated to be twisted out of balance. I don't know if the world being tilted to the light made Shaak empowered but its unquestionable that it weakened Galen's connection as I showed in the quote I provided on the last page.
Syndicate, you said you weren't being serious the last time you did this when you laughed at other people's arguments. I now fear for your sanity.
On-topic, while Shaak did appear to have the edge in the novel, it obviously wasn't a drastic edge given that she ended up practically throwing herself on him (that's literally what the novel says). That Galen grew afterwards (presumably by a very noticeable margin) means that the Shaak supporters are now stuck in the very hole that they dug.
Originally posted by AncientPowerNo hon ❌
Because Meetra Surik and Shaak Ti even remotely share the same traits, any legitimate statement calling Felucia a light side nexus? For that matter one calling it a dark side nexus? Because all of those claims get debunked in The Force Unleashed Campaign Guide.Neither Ti or Marek were amped/hindered there because Felucia has an unusually strong connection to the Living Force. The presence of any Force user can change the alignment of the planet to either dark or light, that doesn't make it a nexus either way.
First off, Shaak Ti and Meetra Surik established powerful Force bonds with those around them, so they do indeed share some similar traits.
As for Felucia being a light side nexus, yes there is proof, Starkiller observes as much when on the planet's surface:
"She had taken a world enjoying the normal flows between the light and the dark sides of the Force and twisted it out of balance. There was still darkness on Felucia, but it was stifled, frustrated, weakened. He strained to awaken it, to remind it of its proper place in the universe. The light side had held sway for far too long. It was time to redress the issue. Killing Shaak Ti would do that quite nicely."
And as for this being "debunked" by the Campaign Guide, wrong again. All it says is that the dark side is "strong" on Felucia (not dominant) which in comparison to your average planet, unsaturated in the Force, is true. But the fact remains that relative to the Felucia's light side presence, it was "stifled, frustrated, weakened" whereas the light side "held sway" i.e. was dominant.
And seeing as the native Felucians were able to tap into the living Force energy of the world, I see no reason why Shaak Ti couldn't do the same. Whereas Marek, as a dark sider, would have been and was repulsed by it. So the environment was indeed firmly in Ti's favour. 👆
Huh, so what you're saying is, Sidious fought Yoda on a light side Nexus so is actually much better than Yoda?
Same with Sidious vs Mace?
Malgus fighting off so many Jedi in their temple should be a far better feat then. I guess Ventress is actually better than Kenobi since she fought him to a standstill on a regular planet.
Either you concede the above, or concede that the Dark Side being explicitly stated to be Strong on Felucia shows the world is fragile, and neither of them had a significant advantage. Like literally every other force nexus that isn't a Dark Side Nexus in the expanded universe lore 😬
Shaak Ti had no greater bonding ability than any other Jedi, she simply trained the Felucians.
Having sway is not nearly a nexus, that's a giant leap in logic.
The native Felucians are naturally connected to the planet, being natives and all.
Man, you guys try really hard to lowball characters when it fits don't you?
Galen still managed to beat Shaak in both the novel and the game, but there is a big difference in Shaak giving him an extremely tough fight [in the novel] and Shaak being crushed by Galen even with all of the environment helping her fight him [in the game]. Even knowing that Galen improves after that, Shaak's prowess is in question here, so it's a relevant matter in my eyes.
The fact here is that the novel and the game contradict each other. When two canon sources contradict each other, one is obviously valid whereas the other is dismissed. How can we determine this? Is it somewhere said what's higher canon, novel or video game?
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Lmao, what? I'll respond to the rest of shortly, but I'd appreciate it if you'd substantiate this first. 👆
I'm not going to bother looking through every Shaak Ti debate to find one that happens to discuss the nexus and happens to have input from you... If you want to act like you've never held the opinion it's a neutral nexus before then go for it, I was simply making an observation.
Originally posted by Petrus
Galen still managed to beat Shaak in both the novel and the game, but there is a big difference in Shaak giving him an extremely tough fight [in the novel] and Shaak being crushed by Galen even with all of the environment helping her fight him [in the game]. Even knowing that Galen improves after that, Shaak's prowess is in question here, so it's a relevant matter in my eyes.The fact here is that the novel and the game contradict each other. When two canon sources contradict each other, one is obviously valid whereas the other is dismissed. How can we determine this? Is it somewhere said what's higher canon, novel or video game?
It's a video game. You crush everyone or you don't depending on the difficulty settings. By that logic we could claim Galen crushed Vader as well...
Originally posted by cs_zoltan
It's a video game. You crush everyone or you don't depending on the difficulty settings. By that logic we could claim Galen crushed Vader as well...
Yup. That's probably why:
Originally posted by Selenial
Well out of the three sources, the Novel and Graphic Novel are the two closest sources of the lot...
Even on 'hard' difficulty the game suggests Galen crushes Shaak, and if he actually struggles, it's because she's aided by the entire environment.
The ease by which you annihilate stormtroopers is determined by the difficulty, sure, but that doesn't mean we can't see the game creators clearly intended Galen to destroy Shaak.
Originally posted by Petrus
Even on 'hard' difficulty the game suggests Galen crushes Shaak, and if he actually struggles, it's because she's aided by the entire environment.The ease by which you annihilate stormtroopers is determined by the difficulty, sure, but that doesn't mean we can't see the game creators clearly intended Galen to destroy Shaak.
What? The only fight sequence we see of them, he gets a lucky shot and sends her into the Sarlacc, using it to kill her instead of killing her himself.
Let's be clear, all sources show Galen wins. The fact is, the game doesn't anywhere show how much he has to work for it, we simply see how he ends it...