Originally posted by jrodslamThey were energy attacks vs. a physical attack. Also Bobby was indeed shown initially affected from the stab. Look at his face. It looks like a normal person when they are being stabbed in the back.
To say Flash "kills" him by destroying his body is absurd. Thor wasnt able to do it. Bobby saying "Arrgh" when Gambit blows up a leg, or "Nnnggh" from a lightning attack from Thor, yet nothing when Warbird stabs right through his chest, makes me even question if he was stunned or hurt. He struck Mystique with lightning, and she didnt say a word. Seems like inconsistency to me.Thor destroyed his body, and Bobby was still able to be in battle let alone, teleport Thor, mystique and everyone else to different locations.
Anyway, by destroy I mean transmute h2o molecules to different molecules. Disintegration works (as it atomizes). So Thor didnt actually destroy the water at all. Bobby can not exist if the body of water that he resides in ceases to exist (is transmuted). Otherwise Bobby can exist inside objects that have no moisture.
To exist inside the moisture of others he must first transfer there.
Finally, Bobby has no defense against Flash just stopping him. Even if Bobby transfers to the moisture in Flashes body (he won't get a chance to) then he would just be trapped there as the speed force is greater.
Originally posted by SurturNot quite, he can transport them through snow.
Hold on Iceman can teleport people?
Originally posted by jrodslamThat's scan doesn't show that. Post the scans before and after than one.
False. He can reform himself via moisture from others.
http://imgur.com/loxGa1h
Also, flash can keep Bobby from reforming by stopping his movement.
Thus flash wins by incapacitating Bobby.
Originally posted by h1a8
Not quite, he can transport them through snow.That's scan doesn't show that. Post the scans before and after than one.
Also, flash can keep Bobby from reforming by stopping his movement.
Thus flash wins by incapacitating Bobby.
The scan does show it. He took the moisture from someone else's body.
Flash would never be able to keep Bobby form reforming.
Originally posted by h1a8
They were energy attacks vs. a physical attack. Also Bobby was indeed shown initially affected from the stab. Look at his face. It looks like a normal person when they are being stabbed in the back.Anyway, by destroy I mean transmute h2o molecules to different molecules. Disintegration works (as it atomizes). So Thor didnt actually destroy the water at all. Bobby can not exist if the body of water that he resides in ceases to exist (is transmuted). Otherwise Bobby can exist inside objects that have no moisture.
To exist inside the moisture of others he must first transfer there.
Finally, Bobby has no defense against Flash just stopping him. Even if Bobby transfers to the moisture in Flashes body (he won't get a chance to) then he would just be trapped there as the speed force is greater.
The look on his face was that of surprise. a normal person being surprised and stabbed would have at least said ouch.
Bobbys body can be disintegrated, evaporated, transmuted or anything. Thats the entire point. He doesn need a body to be effective at all. As long as there is moisture somewhere, he can reform.
Flash has no way to stop or destroy Bobbys consciousness.
You still have not responded to the actual Bobby still not being able to have his mind reached while in ice form. Like mentioned. "Hes just like the others"
http://imgur.com/MrutOSg
Originally posted by jrodslam
The look on his face was that of surprise. a normal person being surprised and stabbed would have at least said ouch.Bobbys body can be disintegrated, evaporated, transmuted or anything. Thats the entire point. He doesn need a body to be effective at all. As long as there is moisture somewhere, he can reform.
Flash has no way to stop or destroy Bobbys consciousness.
You still have not responded to the actual Bobby still not being able to have his mind reached while in ice form. Like mentioned. "Hes just like the others"
http://imgur.com/MrutOSg
Prove that if Bobby is disintegrated or transmuted into non water molecules he can reform.
Flash can simply stop him from reforming by stealing his speed.
I did respond. Just go up a few posts.
Originally posted by h1a8
Prove that if Bobby is disintegrated or transmuted into non water molecules he can reform.Flash can simply stop him from reforming by stealing his speed.
I did respond. Just go up a few posts.
Its been proven because ive shown he formed from water that was not his own. As long as he has a conscious, he can reform from any moisture. Reformed from moisture within sentinels.
http://imgur.com/UTVqIpX
http://imgur.com/PEUbCE9
Again, stealing his speed, doesnt stop his consciousness. Unless you can prove otherwise.
Bobby doesnt need a body to operate. Therefore the burden is up to you to prove Flash can stop his consciousness and use of abilities.
Originally posted by h1a8
I did respond. Just go up a few posts.
Your response to this was what? Hes like the others but isnt the others? His mind cant be reached just like the others. It was assumed they were mindless because they were clones, but even Bobby himself couldnt be reached. She was mistaken in thing so. Full potential Icemans mind is everywhere therefore its hard to get a read on to affect it.
Originally posted by jrodslam
Its been proven because ive shown he formed from water that was not his own. As long as he has a conscious, he can reform from any moisture. Reformed from moisture within sentinels.
http://imgur.com/UTVqIpX
http://imgur.com/PEUbCE9Again, stealing his speed, doesnt stop his consciousness. Unless you can prove otherwise.
Bobby doesnt need a body to operate. Therefore the burden is up to you to prove Flash can stop his consciousness and use of abilities.
I think you are reaching. The sentinels evaporated Bobby. So there was still water (in the form of vapor). Now if they would have atomized him and yet he reformed then you would have a point. Bobby needs moisture to exist. The sentinels didn't destroy any moisture.
Flash doesn't have to stop his consciousness. If he prevents him from operating then its, by definition incapacitation ( a forum win).
Either way, Bobby can't win.
Originally posted by jrodslam
Your response to this was what? Hes like the others but isnt the others? His mind cant be reached just like the others. It was assumed they were mindless because they were clones, but even Bobby himself couldnt be reached. She was mistaken in thing so. Full potential Icemans mind is everywhere therefore its hard to get a read on to affect it.
How am i reaching, lol? Bobby used the moisture that was within them.
In the other dimension, Bobby used the moisture from inside Ginniyeh (whos also a telepath i believe) to reform. Bobby also used all the moisture from inside Fuego to reform as well.
He needs moisture to have/form a body. He doesnt need moisture to exist.
Flash cant stop Bobby from operating if he cant stop his consciousness. Period. I think youre trying to ignore on panel scans.
Originally posted by Surtur
So he snow ports them? What does that even mean? He can teleport them to someplace else in the world where snow is?
Yes. Snow, water, ice. I dont just want to say moisture because from what we've seen, id assume it would have to be a big enough body of it. not sure if hed be able to port someone to the desert.
We diddnt get to see where he sent Thor, but it wasnt with the others, so who knows.