Full Powered Omega Iceman vs The Flashes

Started by hutchy134510 pages

How powerful is oblivion, cus is that not a ridiculous feat

Originally posted by hutchy1345
What was the outcome of his fight with thor?

What Carver said.

Years ago in a comic(dont remember if it was a 616 book), Thor mentioned Iceman at full potential being much like that of Ymir. On the level or more powerful, i dont know, but he said for the most part that its what Bobby would or could become.

Edit: Its mentioned how if Ymir is shattered, he uses those fragments to reform.... Iceman 1up him on that part because he doesnt need one of his fragments in order to reform.

Originally posted by jrodslam
How am i reaching, lol? Bobby used the moisture that was within them.
In the other dimension, Bobby used the moisture from inside Ginniyeh (whos also a telepath i believe) to reform. Bobby also used all the moisture from inside Fuego to reform as well.

He needs moisture to have/form a body. He doesnt need moisture to exist.

Flash cant stop Bobby from operating if he cant stop his consciousness. Period. I think youre trying to ignore on panel scans.

The scan didn't say that nor show it. They turned Bobby into vapor. The vapor went into the air (even onto the sentinels). And I always claimed that Bobby can transport himself to other moisture. I'm not arguing otherwise. I'm arguing that Bobby can't exist without being in some moisture.

You have to prove that he can exists without moisture because all the comics show the contrary. He can exists as liquid, solid, or vapor. Never once in comics was the moisture that he existed in was completely destroyed. The maximum damage ever occurred to him was vaporization.

So you are merely speculating, unless you can show an instance where he existed outside of moisture.

Originally posted by hutchy1345
What was the outcome of his fight with thor?
Bobby bfred him.

Originally posted by hutchy1345
How powerful is oblivion, cus is that not a ridiculous feat

Originally posted by h1a8
The scan didn't say that nor show it. They turned Bobby into vapor. The vapor went into the air (even onto the sentinels). And I always claimed that Bobby can transport himself to other moisture. I'm not arguing otherwise. I'm arguing that Bobby can't exist without being in some moisture.

You have to prove that he can exists without moisture because all the comics show the contrary. He can exists as liquid, solid, or vapor. Never once in comics was the moisture that he existed in was completely destroyed. The maximum damage ever occurred to him was vaporization.

So you are merely speculating, unless you can show an instance where he existed outside of moisture.

Bobby bfred him.

Again, youre ignoring scans. It stated and shows "A fine mist of water" that exits out of the Sentinels, but never showed anything entering. For you to stated that his own vapors entered the Sentinels is speculation on your part.
For shits n giggles, fine. Lets discount that feat.

In another feat on panel Bobby clearly stated that he "found his water elsewhere". You clearly see again, the water exit Ginniyeh's body and again Bobby reforms. NOT from moisture that was of his own, but someone else's completely.

As long as there is moisture ANYWHERE, Bobby can reform. As long as he has a conscious, hes never defeated completely.

Before the bfm, Bobby was easily handling Thor. Thor was clearly outmatched.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Again, youre ignoring scans. It stated and shows "A fine mist of water" that exits out of the Sentinels, but never showed anything entering. For you to stated that his own vapors entered the Sentinels is speculation on your part.
For shits n giggles, fine. Lets discount that feat.

In another feat on panel Bobby clearly stated that he "found his water elsewhere". You clearly see again, the water exit Ginniyeh's body and again Bobby reforms. NOT from moisture that was of his own, but someone else's completely.

As long as there is moisture ANYWHERE, Bobby can reform. As long as he has a conscious, hes never defeated completely.

Before the bfm, Bobby was easily handling Thor. Thor was clearly outmatched.

LOL, We are talking about different things. You are arguing that Bobby can reform from another water source. I know this. I'm arguing that Bobby must first be in moisture (to exist) then he can transfer himself (like teleport) to another body of moisture. So even if moisture was in the Sentinels (before they vaporized Bobby) then Bobby existed in vapor form prior to transferring his consciousness to the moisture inside the Sentinels. This is my argument. I already know he can transfer himself to other moisture.

Lastly, the can where Bobby says, "I found my water elsewhere" is unclear to me. You need to post the entire scene for me to get an understanding of what he meant and what was going on (or give me the issue number). But like I said, Bobby can transfer himself to other moisture. I agree with that.

But the argument is moot since Flash can easily incapacitate Bobby for a forum win.
Any moisture Bobby transfers to Flash will stop it from operating.

H1, you just type things just to type it. You're basically saying Iceman can't do 2 things at one time. How is Flash beating him?

Originally posted by hutchy1345

Flash dies

Originally posted by carver9
H1, you just type things just to type it. You're basically saying Iceman can't do 2 things at one time. How is Flash beating him?

Frightening isnt it? That someone could be that dense yet insist the know wtf their talking about lmao

Originally posted by carver9
H1, you just type things just to type it. You're basically saying Iceman can't do 2 things at one time. How is Flash beating him?

Huh I didn't say that. He definitely can do 2 things at the same time. How does that stop Flash from stopping him?

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Frightening isnt it? That someone could be that dense yet insist the know wtf their talking about lmao
If you read my argument this post of yours actually insults you.

Originally posted by h1a8
Huh I didn't say that. He definitely can do 2 things at the same time. How does that stop Flash from stopping him?

If you read my argument this post of yours actually insults you.

Oh come on h1. Youre making up your own fanfic of character fights and ignoring arguments like you always do. That's like your thing

How powerful is oblivion, because if it's the same he's an abstract?
So unless flash is moreover than him too he loses

Originally posted by hutchy1345
How powerful is oblivion

That's a very good question right here, actually.

no it's not because it is a pis-filled feat and so is completely irrelevant.... either that or we assume there was only the tiniest fraction of his power in that m-body. either way the feat is utterly meaningless.

Or we say that iceman is on that level and stomps flash easily
:-)

Originally posted by leonidas
either way the feat is utterly meaningless.

Like all of Iceman's feats, then.

Because we both know he ends up getting eaten by Beast. Literally.

Iceman is the coldest thing in the universe he wins

Colder than Ymir? 😄