Originally posted by Deronn_solo
That depends on how you define "successful". In a lot of ways, Vader was very successful as a villains; he more or less eradicated all that was left as the Jedi Order following the purge to where to the point Palpatine labeled him the "greatest Jedi Killer" despite him knowing of the exploits of all of the Sith that came before.Sure he didn't achieve his ultimate goal [usurping Palpatine], but given who Sids is --- is this actually a minus on his resume?
Besides that, I don't think Arcann is seen as a bigger deal than Vader in the thick of things. We have statements, both subjective, and objective, labeling him one of the most powerful and skilled Sith Lords ever, 80% the Emperor power, and "near unparalleled" with a lightsaber.
Ahh but now you're looking at specific quotes instead of a vague holistic portrayal that relies on every era having the power levels at the top of the pile 👆
Sure, but their objectives were of different goals and circumstances. Not that being a "better" villain was my main point anyway. I think Sel kinda misinterpreted my point a bit, lal. I was just saying, lore wise, statements and such speak higher of Malak than is does of Shaak Ti. I mean, when we don't have much to go by with someone like [Malak] what else should we use? Feats, feats, and more feats is inadequate solution to the problem, as lack of them is the very cause of the problem.
Edit: Ninja'ed that was for Neph, lmao.
Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Sure, but their objectives were of different goals and circumstances. Not that being a "better" villain was my main point anyway. I think Sel kinda misinterpreted my point a bit, lal. I was just saying, lore wise, statements and such speak higher of Malak than is does of Shaak Ti.
Really? Like what? Shaak Ti's supposedly one of the greatest Jedi Generals, a beacon of light capable off shifting a planet's force alignment entirely, and a warrior so skilled that you have to be the best of the order to even "stand against her". mmm
Originally posted by Selenial
Really? Like what? Shaak Ti's supposedly one of the greatest Jedi Generals, a beacon of light capable off shifting an entirely power, and a warrior so skilled that you have to be the best of the order to even "stand against her". mmm
He's supposedly listed as a galaxy level threat, as skilled with a blade as Revan is tactical, and one of the most powerful Sith Lords to ever exist.
Though, yeah, I didn't per-say know Shaak had hype of the level stated in the above.
Originally posted by Deronn_solo
He's supposedly listed as a galaxy level threat, as skilled with a blade as Revan is tactical, and one of the most powerful Sith Lords to ever exist.Though, yeah, I didn't per-say know Shaak had hype of the level stated in the above.
And while said hype is impressive, I don't think the hype alone justifies a placement above Shaak Ti.
And no problem, should check out her RT tbh. I edited my post to correct an apparent brain fart in the planet sentence...