Captain Marvel

Started by quanchi11276 pages

Originally posted by WolvesofBabylon
All BS aside. I am excited and hopeful for a real 1v1 and not some sort of Thor Stombreaker situation where she comes out of nowhere to save the day. That short little scene she is casually blasting apart what I assume are Skrull Spaceships, flying at high speed and technique. Obviously dont know much about her strength or durability but going to be a fun few months in here.
I will not excuse your slights of Thanos. So when the film comes out and it ends up being a collection of heroes against him I fully expect a heartfelt apology while you are bending the knee.

She is the mightiest hero he is the mightiest villain. Bring the wench on.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]I heard that Avg4/Inf War 2 will really just be Cap Marvel 2.

[/B]

ignorance at its best

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
ignorance at its best
No one listens to him. He begs for attention.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I will not excuse your slights of Thanos. So when the film comes out and it ends up being a collection of heroes against him I fully expect a heartfelt apology while you are bending the knee.

She is the mightiest hero he is the mightiest villain. Bring the wench on.

Haha I am not concerned because I know ultimately Thanos will die and he will fail. I see why you are a fan. All I said was I hope to actually get a 1v1 battle as it seems the IG is damaged and Thanos has nothing that impressive without it.

^ Given Thor already impaled him by himself (yes I know WITH CONTEXT but it happened), I see no reason to be surprised at the notion of some kind of 1v1 Carol vs Thanos.

If there is a final blow to be had and it's not a true group effort.: Still think the final blow that ends Thanos will come from Tony, they've been building Tony's need to face and conquer his anxiety and fears (ie Thanos) for some time (2010ish?).

Also wonder if Tony will die doing it.

Well by Avengers 4 RDJ would have been Iron Man more times (precisely 1 more time) than Jackman was Wolverine. So when youve played the same superhero role more times than Jackman its probably time to end it tbh.

Originally posted by Robtard
If there is a final blow to be had and it's not a true group effort.: Still think the final blow that ends Thanos will come from Tony, they've been building Tony's need to face and conquer his anxiety and fears (ie Thanos) for some time (2010ish?).

Also wonder if Tony will die doing it.

I do agree with this. Tony or Steve or both together

Defeating Thanos =/= killing him.

There is no evidence to suggest Thanos will die. I bet he will lose, yet survive.

Many other Marvel storylines require Thanos' participation, reason why I believe he won't die.

"Final Blow" can and cannot mean he's killed when he's defeated.

Though I personally do think Thanos will die when all is said and done.

Originally posted by WolvesofBabylon
Haha I am not concerned because I know ultimately Thanos will die and he will fail. I see why you are a fan. All I said was I hope to actually get a 1v1 battle as it seems the IG is damaged and Thanos has nothing that impressive without it.
We do not know the details and we know he already won over the greatest collection of pushback in the history of cinema.

If you think casually dominating the Hulk or shrugging off Thor is not impressive I would say you are lying. Every reflex feat, strength feat, and durability showing from Thanos was done under his own innate power.

She may get one on one time but I see more or less the heroes orchestrating a coordinated attack with serious heavyweights such as Hulk, Thor, Marvel, etc.

Tony was and is the greatest philosophical threat to Thanos not Marvel. She just has more raw power but the MCU began with Tony Stark so do not act like marvel is going to swoop in and save everyone else. She will assist against the big bad, Thanos. He is the guy the heroes need to assemble against to stand up to. Biggest, baddest guy in the universe is Thanos, no question.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]Can't cover up those Pretty Marketable faces in the 21st Century. [/B]

Hence my initial post, regarding the helmet. 👆

Funny thing, when Mike Grell did a run on Iron Man (yeeeaaars ago) ppl complained at Tony going w.out his helmet all the time, just like Downey’s done since the MCU started.

Originally posted by quanchi112
We do not know the details and we know he already won over the greatest collection of pushback in the history of cinema.

If you think casually dominating the Hulk or shrugging off Thor is not impressive I would say you are lying. Every reflex feat, strength feat, and durability showing from Thanos was done under his own innate power.

She may get one on one time but I see more or less the heroes orchestrating a coordinated attack with serious heavyweights such as Hulk, Thor, Marvel, etc.

Tony was and is the greatest philosophical threat to Thanos not Marvel. She just has more raw power but the MCU began with Tony Stark so do not act like marvel is going to swoop in and save everyone else. She will assist against the big bad, Thanos. He is the guy the heroes need to assemble against to stand up to. Biggest, baddest guy in the universe is Thanos, no question.

They had him beat on Titan without Thor, Marvel or Hulk and even the Russos admitted that if Quill didnt do what he did that Thanos would have lost so lets not act like he could beat the entire avengers crew especially without the IG.

"No. That was the turning point of that scene. Again, these are flawed characters that make emotional choices, human choices. Had Quill not done that, the movie might have ended right there."

No, they did not. We do not know what would have occurred if Quill did not get emotional but Strange makes it clear the long game is the only chance they had. The guy saw over 14 million scenarios and they only prevailed once.

Might is the key word. They did not say would have just might have. As I said with the other evidence from the film Strange implies there was no other way. If you want to ignore all the film evidence and hinge your entire case on the word might well then you are even more desperate than I previously thought.

He beat everyone who faced him. It was one on many. He did not have all the stones from the onset of the film but it is pretty standard equipment since every action sequence in the film he has at least one regardless of having accessed or not. People never argued in vision threads no mind stone, etc. as that was his standard equipment.

Thor also was gifted a weapon capable of killing Thanos. Thanos survived Thor coming out of nowhere who hurled it into his body.

Thanos won, get over it.

Originally posted by Robtard
If there is a final blow to be had and it's not a true group effort.: Still think the final blow that ends Thanos will come from Tony, they've been building Tony's need to face and conquer his anxiety and fears (ie Thanos) for some time (2010ish?).

Also wonder if Tony will die doing it.

Yeah, I can also see it being Tony if it comes to that. They've been building up his conflict with Thanos ever since he sent the nuke through that portal in the first Avengers movie.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, they did not. We do not know what would have occurred if Quill did not get emotional but Strange makes it clear the long game is the only chance they had. The guy saw over 14 million scenarios and they only prevailed once.

Might is the key word. They did not say would have just might have. As I said with the other evidence from the film Strange implies there was no other way. If you want to ignore all the film evidence and hinge your entire case on the word might well then you are even more desperate than I previously thought.

He beat everyone who faced him. It was one on many. He did not have all the stones from the onset of the film but it is pretty standard equipment since every action sequence in the film he has at least one regardless of having accessed or not. People never argued in vision threads no mind stone, etc. as that was his standard equipment.

Thor also was gifted a weapon capable of killing Thanos. Thanos survived Thor coming out of nowhere who hurled it into his body.

Thanos won, get over it.

If you want to use Stranges quote then you know he didnt win. Strange knew this outcome would happen so he helped start the plan. So really Thanosn getting all the stones and performing the snap is like being up at Halftime. Whole half still to play.

Originally posted by WolvesofBabylon
If you want to use Stranges quote then you know he didnt win. Strange knew this outcome would happen so he helped start the plan. So really Thanosn getting all the stones and performing the snap is like being up at Halftime. Whole half still to play.
Thanos did win but Stranges only chance through the time stone was this one chance.

No, he killed half the universe and achieved his goal. The film ended. He won. It is like saying Sidious did not win because he eventually gets killed in rotj. Separate moments. Thanos achieved his mission. The film ended with his satisfaction. He won. You really troll to no end because the Russos clearly state this film was Thanos film since he prevailed.

You are doing your darndest to try to be biased because you are upset Thanos defeated the heroes.

The funny thing is in all the other films throughout history no villain has defeated greater and more powerful opposition than what Thanos was up against.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos did win but Stranges only chance through the time stone was this one chance.

No, he killed half the universe and achieved his goal. The film ended. He won. It is like saying Sidious did not win because he eventually gets killed in rotj. Separate moments. Thanos achieved his mission. The film ended with his satisfaction. He won. You really troll to no end because the Russos clearly state this film was Thanos film since he prevailed.

You are doing your darndest to try to be biased because you are upset Thanos defeated the heroes.

The funny thing is in all the other films throughout history no villain has defeated greater and more powerful opposition than what Thanos was up against.

Well the prevailing theory is that the heroes will time travel and reverse the snap like it never happened. So your Sidious comparison wouldnt quite work in that scenario because even though Sidious died all the events that happened are still apart of the history while Thanos will never achieve his goal.

Anyway this thread is about Captain Marvel. Sorry for derailing. We will have plenty of time to debate this Spring.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Defeating Thanos =/= killing him.

There is no evidence to suggest Thanos will die. I bet he will lose, yet survive.

Many other Marvel storylines require Thanos' participation, reason why I believe he won't die.

Thanos may show up in the Eternals film

An Eternals movie?
They're right up there w. The Inhumans and New Gods as characters i have little to no interest in seeing movies of.

While i like individual characters in each group, the groups themselves i find boring.