Quicksilver vs. Hulk

Started by TheLordofMurder6 pages

You dont even need to do the math to reason (beyond a shadow of a doubt) that Quicksilver was NOT moving at c...basic physics tells us this.

At the speed of light, time ceases to flow in your frame of reference as time stops completely; in Quicksilvers frame of reference, objects still moved...albeit very slowly (thus time flowed in Quicksilvers frame of reference).

This is proof enough itself that Quickilver was moving slower than c...

In short, if Quicksilver was moving at the speed of light, he would be the only thing moving from his point of view (well himself as well as any electromagnetic radiation in his vicinity)...

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
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Relax. I don't think he has explored forum this much; we should be quite safe here, in the Movie section.

I'll PM him for his input.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
I'll PM him for his input.

Originally posted by wallman77
He was TOSSING 200lb ppl with ease, getting huge distance. Doing it like you tossing a football. So correction there. With effort or possible strain he could obviously move the hulk lol.

Then there is the matter of how durable he must be to even operate at that speed. In DoFP, he was denting the walls when causally running along them. I think his fists will be fine. Whether they damage the hulk is debatable.

Okay, i admit i watched the movie only once. But i am pretty sure he did not toss people that far.

I don't think in DoFP he was denting any walls.

Screw it, i'll watch clips for both movies and see for myself

😂

Edit😮kay at the very least he was slightly denting the walls on DoFP

Second edit: Just rewatched the X mansion scene and i was right. QS didn't toss anyone that far. The only thing that comes close is those 2 people kissing and when he toss people to the balcony, but even still there is a possiblity that the explosion helped.

This is why i don't trust peoples words on movie scenes 😠

Originally posted by TheHulk
Okay, i admit i watched the movie only once. But i am pretty sure he did not toss people that far.

I don't think in DoFP he was denting any walls.

Screw it, i'll watch clips for both movies and see for myself

😂

Edit😮kay at the very least he was slightly denting the walls on DoFP

Second edit: Just rewatched the X mansion scene and i was right. QS didn't toss anyone that far. The only thing that comes close is those 2 people kissing and when he toss people to the balcony, but even still there is a possiblity that the explosion helped.

This is why i don't trust peoples words on movie scenes 😠

Lol, trust peoples words? You mental? I wasn't wrong about anything stated. They obviously flew huge distances with a light toss. From the ppl he threw out the window to the ppl on the roof. Especially the ones that ended up in the lake traveled what looks like almost a football field.. Prove that the explosion helped. You cant.

Hulk people are really mad.

Carver is having a complete meltdown in the Superman vs Hulks thread

Originally posted by wallman77
Lol, trust peoples words? You mental? I wasn't wrong about anything stated. They obviously flew huge distances with a light toss. From the ppl he threw out the window to the ppl on the roof. Especially the ones that ended up in the lake traveled what looks like almost a football field.. Prove that the explosion helped. You cant.
That's because some people can't remember scenes as well as they think moron 😂

I'm pretty sure Quicksilver used his speed as momentum, hell when he spin his body around to toss the people up in the air we don't even know how many times he does it to generate force. One way or another it definitely wasn't a light toss, even though it looks like it.

You are honestly telling me right now, that an explosion like that could not have produced enough force to blow people away? I mean seriously i just said it was a possibility not a fact. But you are seriously telling me that type of huge explosion could not blow people back? But hey again..i just said it was possibility.

Originally posted by TH3_V01D
Hulk people are really mad.

Carver is having a complete meltdown in the Superman vs Hulks thread

Don't let Carver define an entire fanbase. Not everyone is like Abhi for Superman or Quan for Thanos.

Explosions don't work like that. The shockwave from the explosion doesn't magically send you flying. At most it blasts people backwards. They don't go soaring dozens of feet and land perfectly in tree branches and lakes and cushions made of drapes.

Another thing, if the explosion did anything, it would have effected QS' aim. And he spun around as many times as we saw him spin. Once.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
You dont even need to do the math to reason (beyond a shadow of a doubt) that Quicksilver was NOT moving at c...basic physics tells us this.

At the speed of light, time ceases to flow in your frame of reference as time stops completely; in Quicksilvers frame of reference, objects still moved...albeit very slowly (thus time flowed in Quicksilvers frame of reference).

This is proof enough itself that Quickilver was moving slower than c...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
In short, if Quicksilver was moving at the speed of light, he would be the only thing moving from his point of view (well himself as well as any electromagnetic radiation in his vicinity)...

Not to mention, he saw the explosion from outside and rushed inside, but by the time he got there Havok had already been turned to ash. A guy at lightspeed would never have that problem

Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
Not to mention, he saw the explosion from outside and rushed inside, but by the time he got there Havok had already been turned to ash. A guy at lightspeed would never have that problem

Unless Havoc was already Ash by the time QS saw the explosion.

THe explosion had already started by the time he reached the mansion, in fact I'm still not sure how he knew anything was wrong tbh, but he reached the mansion, went down and rescued the people downstairs, whilst he was saving everyone he still had time to plan on how to get everyone out in time and safe, which included hanging up curtains and wrapping that guy in the mattress

Because on the left side of the shot of the mansion, you could see the explosion slowly blasting through the earth/ground (presumably above where the x-jet is held). Peter noticed that, noticed the kids in the car (one of whom who was blue and had a tail), checked the card in his hand again, and more than likely figured he was in the right place, and that they probably needed his help.

And on a somewhat related note: Havok... what an idiot.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller

And on a somewhat related note: Havok... what an idiot.

Yeah what a way to have him go out. Taking the whole X-Mansion.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Yeah what a way to have him go out. Taking the whole X-Mansion.

Taking that potshot was beyond stupid IMO. Best case scenario is that they didn't teleport out, or no one raised a shield, before that blast hit. And beyond the shields and Apoc's healing factor, everyone there is still normal flesh and blood. And he put so much power into that shot that when it hit the one Cerebro blast door behind them, it basically instantly incinerated/vaporised virtually the entire thing. So best outcome, that blast would likely have fried the entire group, Xavier included. And Alex should know better than anyone how dangerous his powers are, and what could happen if he misses.

^ I hope they told Scott later that his brother was a reckless s*** who could have gotten all the X-Men and mutants at the mansion killed.

And if Havoc ends up still being alive they better bring that up in his face.

They don't call him Havok because he likes to do all things well planned and organized, y'know. 😛

Originally posted by KingD19
Explosions don't work like that. The shockwave from the explosion doesn't magically send you flying. At most it blasts people backwards. They don't go soaring dozens of feet and land perfectly in tree branches and lakes and cushions made of drapes.

Another thing, if the explosion did anything, it would have effected QS' aim. And he spun around as many times as we saw him spin. Once.

Why do people put words in another peoples mouth even when unintentional. I keep saying the force of the explosion might have helped. If it did not fine. But seriously people should stop making it sound like like said the explosion was the main factor of the kids flying into the air 😕

Oh and to be fair to Havok, it's not like he was completely aware of the X-Jet. Hell even if he was...he was trying to save the professor. C'mon, i'm pissed that he died like that but still...it was not entirely stupid of him 🙁