Maul (Rebels) vs. Darth Maul (SoD)

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TgKWindRenegade Member

Originally posted by ILS
I don't find the talk of Maul declining physically being overly compelling given that there's way more examples of Sith growing in overall power despite physical decline (opposed to Ben Kenobi, a Jedi hermit). The Force transcends the physical body until it gets extreme.

He's been building on the teachings he received from Sidious and going through ancient temples, ergo he should be more powerful in the Force than before, which ties into everything combat related. Rebels Maul on that basis is better.

Anakin lost 4 limbs, quite a few organs, and a lot of his skin... he lost so much potential sidious kept looking to replace him even though he was still top tier, maul lost all of his waist down... I don't think his force potential is gonna be that much more lhh, but if im wrong about the midichlorian logic just tell me

Emperordmb LSDMB

Except Maul hasn't lost jack shit since TPM, and since TPM he's stated to have only grown more powerful, so suggesting that this limits Maul in Rebels in comparison to his previous peak incarnation where he's already surmounted this weakness kinda doesn't really mean anything.

Zenwolf Senior Member

Tbh the fact that Vader has grown more powerful and that Maul clearly has grown more powerful, means that the whole mechanical body parts of theirs doesn't affect their powers at all.

Sidious only wanted Luke, not because Vader was lacking, just that Luke was stronger than Vader. That simple.

TgKWindRenegade Member

Originally posted by Zenwolf
Tbh the fact that Vader has grown more powerful and that Maul clearly has grown more powerful, means that the whole mechanical body parts of theirs doesn't affect their powers at all.

Sidious only wanted Luke, not because Vader was lacking, just that Luke was stronger than Vader. That simple.

he also wanted to replace vader with the previous form of maul, no doubt vader was still a beast and luke had much more potential

TgKWindRenegade Member

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Except Maul hasn't lost jack shit since TPM, and since TPM he's stated to have only grown more powerful, so suggesting that this limits Maul in Rebels in comparison to his previous peak incarnation where he's already surmounted this weakness kinda doesn't really mean anything.
from what I know vader only matches up to "Anakin" in the clone wars, but the problem I have with rebels is... maul still had his synthetic red light saber, which he lost a while back... not saying that maul isn't powerful but he wouldn't be strong enough to outclass his former self atleast not to the degree I THINK you assume

ILS Restricted

Originally posted by Zenwolf
Tbh the fact that Vader has grown more powerful and that Maul clearly has grown more powerful, means that the whole mechanical body parts of theirs doesn't affect their powers at all.

Sidious only wanted Luke, not because Vader was lacking, just that Luke was stronger than Vader. That simple.

Did you watch the movies?

Zenwolf Senior Member
Originally posted by ILS
Did you watch the movies?

Yeah and?

ILS Restricted

Originally posted by Zenwolf
Yeah and?
Vader losing his chance to be the most powerful Force user ever, because he was cut to pieces, is a thing. Sidious did want Luke because he was stronger than Vader, but Vader was definitely lacking.

Zenwolf Senior Member

Edit: Just forget it.

NewGuy01 perpetual

It's somewhat troubling when people talk about power and potential as if they were mutually exclusive.

Zenwolf Senior Member

You know what...forget it. Clearly there's something of an issue with my wording of things, so I'll just stop here.

NewGuy01 perpetual

Um... saying the right words is important, yeah.

DarthAnt66 DarthAnt66

Son of Dathomir was clearly Maul's prime, yeah, but Rebels shouldn't be that far behind.

Whereas he lacks his prior physical glory days, he's certainly grown more masterful in the Force.

Think Obi-Wan Kenobi in III versus Old Ben Kenobi in IV. He's not as good on the Death Star, but still good.

Darth Thor Senior Member

If Rebels Maul is going to challenge Vader, then he will be above SOD Maul, given SOD Maul could not challenge Sidious, and Vader is confirmed > Sidious 😛

Originally posted by Beniboybling

Lmao

Just read that whole thing. Too funny.

FreshestSlice Eternal Commander

Source for Vader losing potential?

|King Joker| Your Excellency

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Source for Vader losing potential?
As if sources confirming and / or heavily implying something matter nowadays. We can just ignore it and continue spouting the same opinions with gusto. 🙂

Beniboybling Worst Member

Joker gets it. 🙂

FreshestSlice Eternal Commander

Originally posted by |King Joker|
As if sources confirming and / or heavily implying something matter nowadays. We can just ignore it and continue spouting the same opinions with gusto. 🙂

Oh right. Think about it. Why else would Ahsoka leave the Order if not out of the great shame that her inadequacies brought to it. Pretty much anyone who doesn't instantly kill her will be ragdolled by RotJ Luke if he's not jobbing.