Can Black Adam solo Alpha Flight?

Originally posted by Surtur
So instead we more or less handicap them and keep them confined to how they fight in the comics. Even though we all know that at times writers have to write these people as acting dumb and not using their powers properly in order to continue the story.

Anything can happen in a comic, so that will never make sense to me.

Why would you not use the source material? Create your own characters if you don't like the comics the way they are.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Is that your only argument? Speed? Always with the speed. She can tank super strong hits..she negates magic. She stomps Teth. He cant even use his lightning against her and your best argument is speed?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Uh, she is not a tank type of character. One hit from Adam is going to KTFO her.

Based on what? Your lack of knowledge of the character?

Somewhere, KM's dog is being beaten, he just doesn't know why yet.

If BA ever fought or used superspeed and reflexes in a comic then it's a viable tactic. There is no plot here to prevent him from using it. He can only use it to the limit he has shown in the comic.

Remember, when a character doesn't use speed in a comic then it had nothing to do with their choice (they're not stupid) but the writer's choice to fit the plot. These fights are plot free and characters fight to the best of their ability AS SHOWN BEFORE. The key is AS SHOWN BEFORE. This means if they haven't shown it then they can't perform it.

Finally, reflexes is an ALWAYS ON power (like strength and durability). A character can't choose to lower or not use their perceptions. Other powers, like phasing, is actually a choice and solely depends on how the character thinks (their personality and creativity). Thor chooses to brawl a lot is a personality trait of a warrior but he still has his perceptions always on.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes, why not?

They're powered by Mungiforce on KMC.

Any AF member would rip 12 Black Adams (and even White Adams) to pieces in seconds.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Based on what? Your lack of knowledge of the character?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
They're powered by Mungiforce on KMC.

Any AF member would rip 12 Black Adams (and even White Adams) to pieces in seconds.

Someone should try to read Alpha Flight and post their low feats just for the heck of it.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Because I know enough about the character to know she is not some kind of herald buster as you are claiming.
😂

Someone should try to read Alpha Flight and post their low feats just for the heck of it.

She's anti-magic brick. She can absorb his lightning and depower his overrated ass but meh if you know her history I wont continue the debate. Either you're trolling or just stupid.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
She's anti-magic brick. She can absorb his lightning and depower his overrated ass but meh if you know her history I wont continue the debate. Either you're trolling or just stupid.

You are acting as if she is an abstract being.
Can she depower and beat Odin?
Can she withstand mountain leveling punches?
Scans?

Originally posted by Sin I AM
She's anti-magic brick. She can absorb his lightning and depower his overrated ass but meh if you know her history I wont continue the debate. Either you're trolling or just stupid.

She isn't Black Alice.

She absorbed magic from a punch from Piledriver who was amped by Tanaraq who as oeming said each member of the crew was a planet busters. So yes she can absorb magical punches

Depending on your view with Hulk and Superman, here is her depowering Wendigo with a single blast who as noted is equal is just as strong as Hulk even in the same story

It really depends on the mindsets of everyone. If black Adam started to kill Alpha Flight snowbird would most definitely take a great beast form

Originally posted by -K-M-
She absorbed magic from a punch from Piledriver who was amped by Tanaraq who as oeming said was a planet buster. So yes she can absorb magical punches

That's a lot of ABC comparison. She absorbed magic from Piledriver? Big deal. One attack like this and she is dead.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/4/43640/1116949-page09.jpg

Depending on your view with Hulk and Superman, here is her depowering Wendigo with a single blast who as noted is equal is just as strong as Hulk even in the same story

Yeah no, those are not normal wendigos. Even Dr. Fate had to go back in time and steal a portion of Shazam's power to turn back Adam.

If you think Talisman is more powerful than Dr. Fate, go ahead. I'd like a good laugh.

It really depends on the mindsets of everyone. If black Adam started to kill Allha Flight snowbird would most definetly take a great beast form

If Adam goes for the kill, he would rip off their heads like he did with Amazo.

Good luck arguing that Talisman/Snowbird is as durable as Amazo though.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Yeah no, those are not normal wendigos. Even Dr. Fate had to go back in time and steal a portion of Shazam's power to turn back Adam.

If you think Talisman is more powerful than Dr. Fate, go ahead. I'd like a good laugh.

If Adam goes for the kill, he would rip off their heads like he did with Amazo.

Good luck arguing that Talisman/Snowbird is as durable as Amazo though.

Based on? But hey lets say they aren't, how does that diminish the feat again? Ok, that's nice

She's a peer, but you guys made the claim he would one-shot her...he wouldn't.

And then would get eaten by a Great Beast. Now I will use your odd tactic. "If you think Black Adam is more powerful than a Great Beast, go ahead. I'd like a good laugh".

ok?

Originally posted by -K-M-
Based on? But hey lets say they aren't, how does that diminish the feat again? Ok, that's nice

Because Adam doesn't gets the power from an enchantment. He has direct connection with the gods and only an upper level entity like Spectre can depower him.

She's a peer, but you guys made the claim he would one-shot her...he wouldn't.

Dr. Fate had to run away from Adam. She is a peer in magical ability? Hector banished entire JSA with a gesture and beat down ****ing Mordru.

What's next? Talisman can beat Mordru too?

And then would get eaten by a Great Beast. Now I will use your odd tactic. "If you think Black Adam is more powerful than a Great Beast, go ahead. I'd like a good laugh".

Hard to do that when you get your head ripped off.

ok?

I guess Alpha Flight stomp any herald level being which comes their way.

Next question: The heroes opposing Adam in WWIII vs Alpha Flight. Who wins?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Because Adam doesn't gets the power from an enchantment. He has direct connection with the gods and only an upper level entity like Spectre can depower him.

Dr. Fate had to run away from Adam. She is a peer in magical ability? Hector banished entire JSA with a gesture and beat down ****ing Mordru.

What's next? Talisman can beat Mordru too?

Hard to do that when you get your head ripped off.

I guess Alpha Flight stomp any herald level being which comes their way.

Next question: The heroes opposing Adam in WWIII vs Alpha Flight. Who wins?

Actually Wendigo are powered by gods too. ie the Inua. Recently it was retconned to being the Great Beasts

ok? Not really debating here. You guys asked for scans so I posted them. Could I post her absorbing and directing magical powers of Gods? Sure. but like I said I'm not really debating. Just saw those two points and scans were asked so I posted them. There are some members of the team that can freeze time just by saying "shush" or cast a spell freezing anything in the air in place so no one can fly.

You sure like the reach argument eh?

So he's going to rip everyone's head off and their just going to stand there? That's a reach nor is it in character for BA.

Nope, they have a good showing, but depends on their mindset. They have some ridic high showings but on average they are a very potent team but hardly unbeatable. again ww3 was a different mindet BA.

Originally posted by Surtur
So instead we more or less handicap them and keep them confined to how they fight in the comics. Even though we all know that at times writers have to write these people as acting dumb and not using their powers properly in order to continue the story.

Anything can happen in a comic, so that will never make sense to me.

No...we debate primarily off of comics, not make believe. If you have scans of whatever character fighting a certain way consistently, THEN it can be used. Question, who would win out of Odin and Flash.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Actually Wendigo are powered by gods too. ie the Inua. Recently it was retconned to being the Great Beasts

Those Wendigos are created by a specific spell. Not by Gods. That was a curse from the gods of tundra that anyone who eats flesh will become a wendigo.

Black Adam and Captain Marvel channel the power of Lords of Chaos and Order. A serious step above even Great Beasts.

ok? Not really debating here. You guys asked for scans so I posted them. Could I post her absorbing and directing magical powers of Gods? Sure. but like I said I'm not really debating. Just saw those two points and scans were asked so I posted them. There are some members of the team that can freeze time just by saying "shush" or cast a spell freezing anything in the air in place so no one can fly.

Yes, and there are characters who give zero shit to any of that and just wreck teams of those characters.

Like Black Adam. Freezing time? Accelerating time? Please, JSA has that and much more.

Adam runs through them like nothing.

You sure like the reach argument eh?

Nope. Just amused as this team of skyfathers who beat every herald level being called Alpha Flight.

So he's going to rip everyone's head off and their just going to stand there? That's a reach nor is it in character for BA.

Why not? He killed everyone in an entire country when he was in that mindset. The picture shown is of WWIII Adam after all.

Nope, they have a good showing, but depends on their mindset. They have some ridic high showings but on average they are a very potent team but hardly unbeatable. again ww3 was a different mindet BA.

Everyone has them. The difference is Adam has his entire history filled with them.

Controversial conclusions in this Canadian confrontation. Kudos!

Originally posted by abhilegend
Those Wendigos are created by a specific spell. Not by Gods. That was a curse from the gods of tundra that anyone who eats flesh will become a wendigo.

Black Adam and Captain Marvel channel the power of Lords of Chaos and Order. A serious step above even Great Beasts.

Yes, and there are characters who give zero shit to any of that and just wreck teams of those characters.

Like Black Adam. Freezing time? Accelerating time? Please, JSA has that and much more.

Adam runs through them like nothing.

Nope. Just amused as this team of skyfathers who beat every herald level being called Alpha Flight.

Why not? He killed everyone in an entire country when he was in that mindset. The picture shown is of WWIII Adam after all.

Everyone has them. The difference is Adam has his entire history filled with them.

Incorrect, eating flesh creates the connection and the Great Beasts can further add to their power and are directly connected to then as shown recently in Amazing X-men. The more flesh they eat actually powered up Tanaraq.

Well their technically Elder Gods of the Night and are personifications of death and decay and are older then the Earth itself. They did better against the Choas King and his God Army then all the other Pantheon's did. They weren't even full power. Hardly something to brush off.

I know, I'm literally talking about capabilities of the team and to show their not weak. Remember I'm a big JSA fan too

They do have skyfather powers, ie. 2 members can become Great Beasts and one member who can outright control and summon them. However, that's not their average. Could Snowbird take their form? Sure if he was killing them. Would Sasquatch? I doubt it he trys so hard not to. Would Talisman summon them to battle? Unlikely.

True he did post a pic of WW3 BA, so if were using WW3 then that's 100% different.

Agreed, but even their averages are pretty damn high. HIGHLY underrated team

Originally posted by abhilegend

Nope. Just amused as this team of skyfathers who beat every herald level being called Alpha Flight.