Hal has faced Krona, with the Ion entity draining him. He overpowered that, and overpowered the Guardians no harm policy, and killed Krona.
If his willpower can overpower the embodiment of will's control on the emotional spectrum, PLUS a Guardians' control....he can override Vulcan's control.
Hal's willpower is just haxx like that. Oh, you can control Lantern energy? Well, Hal has that +1.
Originally posted by leonidas
those are def valid points. it's also valid to say that is an extreme outlier, even for hal. i'd still give this to vulcan going by standard showings for hal, but you've all convinced me it's likely closer than i may have originally thought. 👆[b]and for the love of everything that's holy why the F*** does EVERYONE on the forum not put BAV on ignore?? it's maddening, seriously. if everyone ignored him i wouldn't be forced to read his motherf****** quoted posts and wouldn't be forced to follow his trolling or, more embarrassing, especially for forum vets, watch others get drawn into the troll-fests. f****** spam is getting tiresome in so many f****** threads. ignore him, or stop responding to his sh!t. seriously. and i'm begging y'all--stop quoting his bullsh!t.
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Go home and change your moist thong. You're begging? 😆 😆 😆 Classic!!
Originally posted by Stoic
Wouldn't this be Vulcans fight to lose?
So, here he is fighting Krona, who not only is a Guardian (and thus, unable to be killed by a ring), but also had all the emotional entities under his control - including Ion.
Krona was able to redirect ALL of Hal's will, with a simple shrug:
https://comicnewbies.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/green-lantern-hal-jordan-vs-krona-2.png
This was due to him controlling Ion, and thus, willpower:
https://comicnewbies.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/green-lantern-hal-jordan-vs-krona-3.png
He was even able to drain Hal's ring:
https://comicnewbies.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/green-lantern-hal-jordan-vs-krona-5.png
And yet...
We all know what happened in the end of that fight.
Krona+Ion's control of a Lantern's ring >>> Vulcan's control. Ion IS willpower. And Hal just overrode that. He overrode the Guardians' failsafe to stop it killing one of their own.
OK well I'm convinced. Hal wins ugly, but it should be noted that his Krona era feats were not his average or norm showings. It's really taking him at his very best and throwing him up against a high herald level energy manipulator. Hal was operating at low end Sky Father levels at least. That's not really his average.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So, here he is fighting Krona, who not only is a Guardian (and thus, unable to be killed by a ring), but also had all the emotional entities under his control - including Ion.Krona was able to redirect ALL of Hal's will, with a simple shrug:
https://comicnewbies.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/green-lantern-hal-jordan-vs-krona-2.pngThis was due to him controlling Ion, and thus, willpower:
https://comicnewbies.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/green-lantern-hal-jordan-vs-krona-3.pngHe was even able to drain Hal's ring:
https://comicnewbies.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/green-lantern-hal-jordan-vs-krona-5.pngAnd yet...
We all know what happened in the end of that fight.
Krona+Ion's control of a Lantern's ring >>> Vulcan's control. Ion IS willpower. And Hal just overrode that. He overrode the Guardians' failsafe to stop it killing one of their own.
Is this just a high end showing or were there other showings that proves he was operating above normal?