Feats vs Appearances

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Yes according to carver

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Yes according to carver

Only when it supports his preferred character though.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
For those saying once...

What happens if it is someone like.....Batman? Who is supposed to be 'human' level - and yet, does things far out of the ordinary (and has done so on many, many times)?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So with the OP's example - Jane Foster has the power of Thor (if they be worthy, etc etc).

If she takes on the Celestials, LB Galactus, the Beyonders etc and kills them all - with the power of Thor - is that not an outlier? Same Mjolnir, same enchantment etc. All that is different, is that we have replaced a half Asgardian, half Elder God warrior prince....with a cancer patient. Everything else should be exactly the same.

So no, not a hypothetical. We are already in that age.

Moreover, if what you're saying is correct - and I am NOT saying you are wrong, btw - then relying on 'flavour of the month' showings, as it were, would be a bit premature.

DCnU Batman is completely separate from DCU Batman. We can't interchange their feats. Therefore, we cannot interchange their low showings, nor their averages either.

And Batman's average in the DCnU, thus far, seems to be higher. KOing SuperTitan Gladiator, the WW showing, motorbikes, robots, fighting 28 hours straight against trained killers whilst holding back...

Of course, as time goes on, perhaps his average will come down. But you are being tainted by the memories of his hundreds/thousands/tens of thousand showings in the DCU.

I must've missed this. Good read. But this reminds me of Rulk. When he came on the scene he was tanking hammer strikes to the face and knockin out watchers....couple arcs later he's choked out by simon. It takes ALOT more than obe one showing to show someone is the real deal

Originally posted by Sin I AM
How many appearances does a character need in order to equal another?

You can use Thorr Odison vs Jane Foster as a template

certainly not one. in fact, the idea of one is pretty exactly OPPOSITE to what the forum preaches--consistent performances. we exclude crazy outliers for a reason. with a single appearance, we have no way of knowing if said performance will ultimately be nothing more than an outlier.

in tourneys we used to have a 10 appearance limit for characters so we all have a good idea of what they can do, but even 10 isn't really very many.

jane still has a long way to go to proving she is a match for the real thor imo.

this idea of a single performance being used is why we get so many ridiculous 'jumping the gun' threads started where the new character of the month first appears, does something great, then everyone is comparing him to galactus or whatever.....

the answer is many.

👆 To the two posts above mine. Otherwise, Starbrand would be awesome.

Rulk won't get choked out.

Golgo would be Galan.

Madness, I tell you.

Originally posted by Surtur
I think you need a feat to say you equal someone. If you have one appearance and one feat that shows you equal someone, well then I would say you equal that someone.

I think the more feats a person has the more we look at consistency. While if you only have a few appearances we take whatever you do at face value.

If Spider-Man's first appearance was fighting Firelord, people wouldn't of questioned it.

^^^

When it comes to statements I only really pay attention to the ones that have feats to support them.