Originally posted by NotAllThatEvilWhat ? It cut his hand right off so it depends on where. If someone shoots me in the hand and I live that doesn't mean I can take bulletfire. Lightsabers hurt him like anyone else in the Star Wars universe. Fl took him out pretty hard easily which pales in comparison to Thor's Lightning.
The fact vader has armour that can take lightsabers is actually a really big point in his favor mind you
Originally posted by quanchi112
That doesn't mean he didn't struggle hence his shoulder being tagged. Vader was better than him in ESB but that doesn't mean he didn't struggle throughout the battle he just prevailed.
That doesn't mean he was using all his power to defeat him. Besides, Vader got a lightsaver, which can chop down Thor.
Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
There is a lot of talk of thor throwing his hammer, though 99% of the time he fights up close, but we don't mention vader throwing his saber. He's done it before.
He actually throws his hammer pretty often.
Top of mind: Malekith, Kurse, Iron Man, Hulk, Chitauri and Frost Giants.
It isn't his go-to move as he uses it when there is distance between him and his opponents (duh) and he prefers to get close where he does hammer strikes. But it's certainly more often than movie Vader's saber throw IIRC. How many times in the movie did Vader even use his saber throw?
And the funny thing is, Thor actually has showings where he dodged fast things thrown at him.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He was using his best defenses which Luke penetrated. Vader is slow as molasses compared to Thor. Thor would break him with one hammer strike.
You said it! He was using his best defenses! He was in defensive mode not offensive mode! Did you ever wonder why he never used telekinesis on his son, or electricity? I mean, Vader had the ability to choke people with his telekinesis, he could have done the same thing with Luke. But he aint, this proves my point.
Originally posted by Josh_AlexanderIn a sword fight you have to use both and know when to strike at the proper time. My point still stands. Vader used tk against his son, LoM's sock. He doesn't have fl. Luke also used force choke in rotj. Saying why didn't he use said tactic is ignoring ehich tactics he did use. Vader won but not easily hence the shoulder graze.
You said it! He was using his best defenses! He was in defensive mode not offensive mode! Did you ever wonder why he never used telekinesis on his son, or electricity? I mean, Vader had the ability to choke people with his telekinesis, he could have done the same thing with Luke. But he aint, this proves my point.
Originally posted by quanchi112
In a sword fight you have to use both and know when to strike at the proper time. My point still stands. Vader used tk against his son, LoM's sock. He doesn't have fl. Luke also used force choke in rotj. Saying why didn't he use said tactic is ignoring ehich tactics he did use. Vader won but not easily hence the shoulder graze.
You're not getting it yet. Vader didn't intended to kill Luke! in ROTS and A new hope, Vader's orders were to transform Luke into the Dark Side, not to kill him. Vader was never in an Offensive mode. Remember the part where he told him he was his father? Well, everything was planed, in order to make Luke turn into the dark side. He did it by telling him " I am your father!" but Luke never felt.
Originally posted by Josh_AlexanderI know but he did intend to defeat him which he didn't too easily. That's my point you abortion of logic. Yes, he was especially since he cut off his hand. That's an offensive strike, noob. Vader won and didn't intend to kill him but didn't beat him easily.
You're not getting it yet. Vader didn't intended to kill Luke! in ROTS and A new hope, Vader's orders were to transform Luke into the Dark Side, not to kill him. Vader was never in an Offensive mode. Remember the part where he told him he was his father? Well, everything was planed, in order to make Luke turn into the dark side. He did it by telling him " I am your father!" but Luke never felt.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I know but he did intend to defeat him which he didn't too easily. That's my point you abortion of logic. Yes, he was especially since he cut off his hand. That's an offensive strike, noob. Vader won and didn't intend to kill him but didn't beat him easily.
Okay, but that doesn't mean Vader is weak. And, if he would have intended to kill Luke, he could have any moment he wanted. All he needed is to choke him like he did with his general. Now, Thor ain't luke! So Thor is dead! Full stop.
Originally posted by Josh_AlexanderVader is weak for a whole multitude of ways this just proves his defenses are suspect against someone with incomplete training. Thor is far more powerful than a human and force choke takes time. One hammer strike and he's done for. Vader didn't force choke anyone impressive in battle. Ever. 😂
Okay, but that doesn't mean Vader is weak. And, if he would have intended to kill Luke, he could have any moment he wanted. All he needed is to choke him like he did with his general. Now, Thor ain't luke! So Thor is dead! Full stop.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Okay, but that doesn't mean Vader is weak. And, if he would have intended to kill Luke, he could have any moment he wanted. All he needed is to choke him like he did with his general. Now, Thor ain't luke! So Thor is dead! Full stop.
Post a clip of Vader choking someone with Thor's durability.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Vader is weak for a whole multitude of ways this just proves his defenses are suspect against someone with incomplete training. Thor is far more powerful than a human and force choke takes time. One hammer strike and he's done for. Vader didn't force choke anyone impressive in battle. Ever. 😂
He can stop the hammer! telekinesis! And how will Thor stop the Lightsaver!? It's laser, could just chop his hammer! He can choke thor and stop his hammer at the same time! Lol, Thor is dead.