Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
What exactly is thor's durability. He was stabbed by loki who was visibly shaken by being beat by cap. Vader has lifted an atat and could rip chuncks of machinery apart and toss them effortlessly.
1) Loki's daggers are magic and 2) post a clip of Thor being beaten by Cap
For a start. Taking punches from the Hulk, blasts from a Iron-man at 475% power and tanking the Bi-frost explosion.
Originally posted by The Ellimist
Do you seriously think Thor can throw his hammer + the hammer travels through the air + it hits a mobile Vader before Vader can clench his fists, or just think about Thor getting thrown around?It's ridiculous to deny that Vader could catch things with TK when the same Kylo Ren who worships him and fears he'll never be as strong as him can do so to a blaster bolt, but regardless, that wasn't really the point - the point is that Vader can, through his precognition + telekinesis + lightsaber, hit Thor before Thor can hit Vader.
Or since when can Thor stop a lightsaber throw when he's getting knocked around by telekinesis at the same time?
Ah. Well, with his comic and novel feats Vader would destroy Thor. With just the movies and Rebels series, he's still powerful enough to toss around Thor for at least the time needed to chop his head off (he does lift an AT-ST in Rebels).
A TK push? Sure, I can imagine Vader hitting Thor with a TK push before Thor manages a hammer throw. But how's getting pushed going to stop Thor from throwing his hammer? Force choke? Still won't stop Thor from throwing his hammer.
Thor can throw the hammer without a windip. Just toss it with one hand swing. The hammer's top on screen velocity has allowed it to hit low orbit in under 2-3 seconds in The Dark World. Vader's TK would push Thor back a little bit, but nothing is stopping Thor from throwing his hammer after getting pushed back.
And Vader isn't a hammer-dodging-TK-pushing-saber-throwing-force-speeder. He can't multitask force powers like that. Even in Reberls he had to drop Ezra as soon as he started to need to defend himself from Kanan. He can't toss his saber while he's repeatedly tossing Thor via force push.
Show Vader's dodging "feats" pls. Or him stopping anything from hitting him via the force. And FYI, "feats" are not interchangeable. You cannot use Kylo's showings and use it for Vader. And no, at 100 yards starting range (as per mod ruling) no way can Vader clear that distance before Thor smacks him with a hammer throw.
Thor doesn't need to stop a lightsaber throw. A single hammer toss is bringing Vader down. Unless you can post dodging "feats" for Vader.
I think the pro-Vader side just assumed that Thor will be helpless when getting hit by a TK push?
And pls don't bring the comics/novels here as comics/novels are inadmissible in the MVS and Thor's comic showings put him as a nearly indestructible planet buster with superhuman reaction time that can stand nonchalantly inside the sun.
I mean how is Vader getting up from (1:45). And force push ain't got nothing on Thor (2:26). Heck, (1:57) would likely one shot Vader.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Not based off anything logical just fanboyism. Speculation. We see them battle at the end of Rotj with Luke being fully trained how easily he bests Vader in saber combat. Vader killed someone without powers who wasn't able to harm him off screen. What a pathetic coward.
Fanboyism!? HAHA, okay! You should check Return of the Jedi my friend! Last scene! The only reason Vader didn't killed Luke was cause he is his son! Vader never really tried to kill Luke, his love for him made him doubt. And we are not speaking of Luke here but of Thor! Thor dies.
Originally posted by Josh_AlexanderThat doesn't mean he didn't struggle hence his shoulder being tagged. Vader was better than him in ESB but that doesn't mean he didn't struggle throughout the battle he just prevailed.
Fanboyism!? HAHA, okay! You should check Return of the Jedi my friend! Last scene! The only reason Vader didn't killed Luke was cause he is his son! Vader never really tried to kill Luke, his love for him made him doubt. And we are not speaking of Luke here but of Thor! Thor dies.