The Ones vs Clones Part 2

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Reasoning?

If the Ones are actually universe busters, they make it at least to Galactus.

They make it Galactus or the boss, tbh.

So most people are on board with the notion that The Ones can destroy the entire universe?

Ehh...

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
So most people are on board with the notion that The Ones can destroy the entire universe?

The Father pretty much says this outright, and I see no reason to disbelieve him. Aside from appeals to personal incredulity, it seems legit.

I mean, didn't it require the efforts of both The Son and Daughter just to defeat and imprison full-powered Abeloth, who by no means was universal?

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
I mean, didn't it require the efforts of both The Son and Daughter just to defeat and imprison full-powered Abeloth, who by no means was universal?

Wasn't that before they became divine, and according to some random painting? Didn't a source outright state that Abeloth was less powerful than the Ones?

I think there was a source like that prior to her drinking of the font and pool, but I don't remember...:Mmm:

Anyways, I think they stop at either Odin or Galactus. The former at his best was able to slug it out with Galactus, (though ultimately even his finest effort was no match for him,) and is a casual Galaxy/Multi-Galaxy buster. Galactus at his very best is a universal cosmic entity capable of doing things like: Beat Mephisto in his own realm, kill one of the Mad Celestials, move galaxies across the universe, effortlessly annihilate galaxies, etc. Odin and Galactus also have the haxx edge on their side, what with the Odinforce and the power cosmic.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
I think there was a source like that prior to her drinking of the font and pool, but I don't remember...:Mmm:

Anyways, I think they stop at either Odin or Galactus. The former at his best was able to slug it out with Galactus, (though ultimately even his finest effort was no match for him,) and is a casual Galaxy/Multi-Galaxy buster. Galactus at his very best is a universal cosmic entity capable of doing things like: Beat Mephisto in his own realm, kill one of the Mad Celestials, move galaxies across the universe, effortlessly annihilate galaxies, etc. Odin and Galactus also have the haxx edge on their side, what with the Odinforce and the power cosmic.

Are Odin or Galactus at any typically power level universe busters? If not, then they lose. I suppose you could argue that they could pull some reality warping or power cosmic haxx, but then again, presumably the One's Force abilities would somewhat correlate in diversity and breadth of abilities with their raw power.

Odin and Galactus aren't typically universe busters, no. But we can hardly say The Ones are with any certainly either. I mean, the only thing supporting it isn't even definitive; "tearing apart the fabric of the universe" doesn't necessarily mean, "The Son and Daughter can literally annihilate the contents of everything in the universe, including all planets, stars, black holes, galaxies, etc." Heck, given that the force is considered the fabric of the universe, and The Ones are the embodiment of the force, I wouldn't be surprised if it meant irreversibly ****ing up the force itself as opposed to blowing up the universe.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Reasoning?

Odin was busting galaxies with just the after effect of his fight with Seth - showing I would rank outside of the Son and Daughter's paygrade. Oh, and shacking the very fabric of the multiverse puts him on levels the Ones couldn't dream of obtaining, too.

Bumpedo