Originally posted by Nibedicus
I don't see 20%, I see 20. I don't see 6000 or 1200.Where in this article shows those numbers?
Originally posted by Nibedicus
I don't see 20%, I see 20. I don't see 6000 or 1200.Where in this article shows those numbers?
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Dumb thread. Islamic rights doesn't mean Shariah law, it means not oppressing Muslims.
You might want to educate yourself before you call something/someone dumb.
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/rights/#1
There is a right to do something, to act, a key component of what the notion of rigths mean.
Gays have the right to pursue their lifestyle, but radical Muslims claim the right to persecute homosexuals. Clear conflict of rights.
Originally posted by Stigma
By your definition of rights, which is flawed. 👆You might want to educate yourself before you call something/someone dumb.
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/rights/#1
There is a right to do something, to act, a key component of what the notion of rigths mean.
Gays have the right to pursue their lifestyle, but radical Muslims claim the right to persecute homosexuals. Clear conflict of rights.
The right to be Muslim doesn't give them the right to oppress other people or force their beliefs on others. Just like the right to being Christian shouldn't allow Christians to enforce their backward beliefs on others.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Nope.The right to be Muslim doesn't give them the right to oppress other people or force their beliefs on others. Just like the right to being Christian shouldn't allow Christians to enforce their backward beliefs on others.
Read the entry.
Rights have various categories, one of which is the right to act, pursue your goals, such as "the pursuit of happiness" which is described in the US Declaration of Independance, among many others.
In short, homosexuals have the right to pursue happiness through their lifestyle, radical Muslims claim the right to persecute homosexuals or to act in order to harm them.
See the poll on British Muslims I already posted few times. GG. 👆
What you mean is freedom from persecution, and as of now, it is homosexuals who are persecuted by Radical Islamists.
Originally posted by Lestov16
Sharia Law for Muslims: bad
Homophobic Law for Christians: goodViolating Christians first amendment: bad
Violating Muslims first amendment: goodViolating first amendment to stop terrorism: good
Violating second amendment to stop terrorism: badAmerican hypocrisy at work
It's not like that, Lestov. The government could care less about the Christians beliefs. If they cared, many laws that conservative Christians abhor would not have been passed. This country is more concerned with political correctness than anyone's religious Dogma. It's all about human rights and equality under the law. A Christian committing a crime against a homosexual is punishable by law in this country. The government does not care what the Bible says on the matter or the Quran.
Originally posted by Lestov16
Sharia Law for Muslims: bad
Homophobic Law for Christians: goodViolating Christians first amendment: bad
Violating Muslims first amendment: goodViolating first amendment to stop terrorism: good
Violating second amendment to stop terrorism: badAmerican hypocrisy at work
It's not hypocrisy because people here don't actually say it's okay for Christians to behave in the way you are suggesting. Nobody said homophobic "laws for Christians" are good.
Originally posted by Tattoos N Scars
It's not like that, Lestov. The government could care less about the Christians beliefs. If they cared, many laws that conservative Christians abhor would not have been passed. This country is more concerned with political correctness than anyone's religious Dogma. It's all about human rights and equality under the law. A Christian committing a crime against a homosexual is punishable by law in this country. The government does not care what the Bible says on the matter or the Quran.
A large majority of the country follow a specific religion, I think they definitely do care. Yes they pass laws Christians do not like, but they still can't 100% shit on them because that represents a lot of support, a lot of voters.
Originally posted by Lestov16
Sharia Law for Muslims: bad
Homophobic Law for Christians: goodViolating Christians first amendment: bad
Violating Muslims first amendment: goodViolating first amendment to stop terrorism: good
Violating second amendment to stop terrorism: badAmerican hypocrisy at work
Passages in the Bible =/= Homophobic Law. And countries that would have "Christian Laws" that harm/oppress based on ideology wouldn't be agreed on by the American people either (separation of Church and State and all that). So, no. There is no "homophibic law = good" mentality here. I mean, w/c American majority (seeing as you generalized it as American thing) are you talking about that supports this?
So your entire comparison falls flat at best. Is a complete lie at worst. You just seem to have this utter hate in your heart and it's clouding your perception of people. You just love to generalize and pull shit out of your butt, it's insane.
Seriously.
Originally posted by Lestov16
Oh please. You're talking about generalizing while making blanket statements about the world's second largest religion.
Some people generalize due to statistics that are well known. On the other hand you can't truly believe there is this "homophobia is awesome and laws against it are good" mentality in this country.
Do you have anything to suggest a large portion of the country is homophobic? Your previous article "proving" a lot of hate crime actually was highly dubious. It just pointed out that some people murdered happened to be gay/trans/whatever.
Originally posted by Surtur
It's not hypocrisy because people here don't actually say it's okay for Christians to behave in the way you are suggesting. Nobody said homophobic "laws for Christians" are good.A large majority of the country follow a specific religion, I think they definitely do care. Yes they pass laws Christians do not like, but they still can't 100% shit on them because that represents a lot of support, a lot of voters.
I agree with what you are saying. The government is not trying to purposely piss Christians off. The Government can't frame laws with religious texts as a guide, however. Laws in a secular nation tend to be anti-christian and anti-islamic in many instances, but that is due to trying to defend human rights in general. As long as the government doesn't directly interfere in church business to force them to accept something they don't agree with, Christians csn be content with that. If a christian is educated in the laws of this country, he/she would know that the government is separate from the church. The government make sure all human rights are adhered to. Many times this can conflict with traditional church doctrine. This is not a theocracy, so christians can't have their cake and eat it too.
Originally posted by Lestov16
My bad
https://m.fbi.gov/#https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2014/december/latest-hate-crime-statistics-report-released
Still nothing about our government killing homosexuals. Where is that part?
Originally posted by Lestov16
Sharia Law for Muslims: bad
Homophobic Law for Christians: goodViolating Christians first amendment: bad
Violating Muslims first amendment: goodViolating first amendment to stop terrorism: good
Violating second amendment to stop terrorism: badAmerican hypocrisy at work
Proof?
Yep, the U.S. Government definitely doesn't persecute gays, sure....
But I know what you'll say," it's okay to discriminate against them as long as we don't kill them like Muslims. Since our intolerance is "lesser", that makes it okay"