Originally posted by abhilegendActually, Universal pictures has Hulk movie rights also which stifles solo movies, it's weird but it's true.
That's why he doesn't even has a movie anymore. One time Thor guest starred in a hulk movie. Now hulk is guest starring in a thor movie.👆
Now he can have the last word
Getting back on track here...
Originally posted by Galan007
Well, the context of the story may have been metatextual, but I don't think Thought-Robot and Mandrakk were *just* metatextual beings. After all, we saw what happened when a small portion of Mandrakk's power(in the form of Rox Ogama/Mandrakk II) entered the mainstream multiverse. He was still the most powerful foe in all creation--well above the likes of even Spectre and Radiant(the former of which had finally realized his full potential in the Revelations prelude crossover.) So yeah...Also, it wasn't *just* Superman powering Thought-Robot... Ultraman's essence was also required. Without this 'fusing of symmetries', Superman's story alone would not have been enough to even activate Thought-Robot--let alone defeat Mandrakk.
Anywho, those being(s) whom operate on a higher plane/scale than the Monitors *should* be above Thought-Robot/Mandrakk... And there aren't many.
Ultraman may technically be a different character but I'd consider him to be a part of the "Superman story".
I don't doubt that CA Superman can beat others, I'm just trying to wrap my head around the concept of how on a metatextual level. I'm a-ok with saying "here's a guy who represents anti-story, he can wreck shit". Less ok with "here's a guy who represents the the purest concept of story, he can wreck shit".
Anyways, carrying on: to me, beating CA Superman requires someone who can erase Superman's story/get rid of him as a character. That would require an omnipotent (writer's avatar) or agent thereof.
Originally posted by CogitoIt's a catch-22 regardless.
Which is the same thing as erasing his story 😉
To dump him in the Overvoid means you'd be bypassing the Source Wall(it is the final barrier between physical creation and the Source/Overvoid.) The amount of power required to do that is equally as staggering as what you mentioned above.
Originally posted by carver9
Hulk will always beat Superman. Just look at what Titus, Grundy and Doomsday did.
This is making it more and more clear why you refuse to take-up my BZ challenge.
Originally posted by abhilegend
There, there, I feel your pain.Someday Hulk will be interesting as a character too.
When he is not getting replaced from his own comic by his sidekick.
Better than a woman taking your place and outdoing you with your own "hammer!!" 😱
Originally posted by Galan007
It's a catch-22 regardless.To dump him in the Overvoid means you'd be bypassing the Source Wall(it is the final barrier between physical creation and the Source/Overvoid.) The amount of power required to do that is equally as staggering as what you mentioned above.
Galan, whats your lineup of characters that would likely beat him?