Revan vs Darth Tenebrous

The gap is pretty much the same (proportionally) between every Banite Master and their Apprentice. I meant that Plagueis and Tenebrous would have no difference to say, Bane and Zannah.

Speculatively sure. Alternatively tho, one could make a case for Plagueis being an anomaly to the rule.

Given how little is actually known of Sith from the Banite Line --- that kinda logic couldn't be proven to be right, or wrong. It's either you believe, or don't.

Is it not believable?

Tenebrous has to be massively above Dooku for Banite scaling to work. Plagueis may have been an anomaly, but there are some documented cases and presumably more where the apprentice kills the master in single
combat, often before their prime. Tenebrous himself thought he and Plagueis were passing some line in their order's history, and maybe he was delusional, but Plagueis didn't seem to disagree and his own power speaks for itself.

Tenebrous is probably above or at least near Vader, and thus beats Revan, with his saber skills breaking any reservations.

Stupidity at its finest.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Is it not believable?

Personal, it falls perfectly in line with the overall narrative.

I believe both Plagueis and Palpatine where both significantly above any of the Banite Sith. With the gap between Damask and Tenebrous resembling the one between Darth Vader and Sidious by RotJ.

Well, that's my thoughts on the matter at least. We'll never know for certain given the window of Legends canon is shut for good.

With an unknown like Tenebrous, we need to defer to the most probable explanation - and putting him at Dooku level requires us to believe that the Banite sith were stagnant for thirty generations, which would make a lot of the quotes citing gradual accumulation or build up pretty deceptive.

Yeah, if Plagueis is around novel-SWTOR Vitiate in Force Power, then Tenebrous being Revan-tier or even more powerful than him isn't that hard to believe.

Well, sure in hindsight I admit - Tene being "barely" above Dooku was a understatement on my part.

But being above Dooku, and being on even playing fields - or greater - than Revan, is two completely different monsters entirely.

I still rank Tenebrous firmly below Revan's tier, honestly.

Below Revan to Plagueis is a pretty massive gap, and there's no evidence to support the idea that Plagueis was that much of an outlier to make like 30% of the past thirty RoT jumps.

Kek, I'd argue Sidious should be considered the uncharacteristic jump in power, not Plagueis. 😬

@Skillz - Definitely. I think everybody agrees on Sidious being the outlier - not sure why Plagueis would be.

He almost certainly is, and Plagueis was probably larger than normal, but given this we can still put Tenebrous above Vader and subsequently Revan.

And as such, Tenebrous, while noticeably behind Plagueis, is sill above the likes of Revan and Vader, imho.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
And as such, Tenebrous, while noticeably behind Plagueis, is sill above the likes of Revan and Vader, imho.

Agreed again.

I have Plagueis = Valkorion in the Force, but that's probably a minority opinion.

It is. I have Valk ~ ROTJ Sidious in the force, tbch.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
I have Plagueis = Valkorion in the Force, but that's probably a minority opinion.

Do you have something to contribute, or are you just going to follow me around and make a snide comment on every opinion I express?

All I see is a circle jerk of speculative opinions, kek.

Like it or not; no one here has a way to definitively rank Tenebrous above the likes of Vader and Revan. I certainly don't see Tenebrous as having 80% of Palpatine's power.