DC vs. Marvel: Four on Four Fight

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
Mobius seemed weaker in his later form then he was when he fought Darkseid as Anti-Monitor.

Lexseid with a fraction of Darkseid's power was beam struggling Mobius

Trevor killed Mobius with just the ALE which was originally in Mobius when he was the Anti-Monitor.

Given that Clark could survive Omega Beams in origins, him fairing well against beams from Mobius is honestly expected.

Mobius still had the power of several universes he had absorbed. He shrugged off attacks from entire GLC and casually killed Ultraman. He was way above Odin and skyfather level.

ALE is the equivalent to white light for antimatter universe.

No, it isn't. That's a very high showing for a drained Superman.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Not rubbish. PF Supes was cheapied, but wasn't down for the count as per your own scans. Your credibility is shot here since you have proven yourself time and again to be unable to properly interpret what's on panel.

Pretty sure it's not just Ultimates and Inhumans.. And iirc someone singled out a pretty significant point that pruneface is pulling a fast one.

When that happens, let me know. Until then? Thanos got his shit pushed in by Ultimates.

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
My mistake I read the comic just wasn't remembering. None of this proves New52 Superman was superior to PC Superman though in the end of the day it was still a cheapshot.

I'm curious if the Kryptonite Poisoning was effecting PC Superman, and where your getting that PC Superman was 100% from.

Dan Jurgens himself clarified that.

https://mobile.twitter.com/thedanjurgens/status/743479302646177792

Originally posted by abhilegend
Mobius still had the power of several universes he had absorbed. He shrugged off attacks from entire GLC and casually killed Ultraman. He was way above Odin and skyfather level.

ALE is the equivalent to white light for antimatter universe.

No, it isn't. That's a very high showing for a drained Superman.

Power of the Universes meaning what? It doesn't suggest his blast are universal or his physicals are universal. All it suggest is that he's absorbed universes in preparation. We can't suggest his Attributes are universal all around because of that.

I remember Ultraman bloodying him before he died. So it definitely wasn't Universal durability.

PF Supes cheapies, but not out for the count. Last panel shows him reacting to the blast still in mid air.

By Abhi's logic, everytime someone gets punched hard and sent away they are KO'd. That's simply not the case.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/27592345/Superman_2011-_052-014.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/27592357/Superman_2011-_052-015.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/27592382/Superman_2011-_052-016.jpg.html

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
Power of the Universes meaning what? It doesn't suggest his blast are universal or his physicals are universal. All it suggest is that he's absorbed universes in preparation. We can't suggest his Attributes are universal all around because of that.

I remember Ultraman bloodying him before he died. So it definitely wasn't Universal durability.

Remember Krona?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Hahaha, at point you're just going what's on panel. Seems your default option.

When that happens, let me know. Until then? Thanos got his shit pushed in by Ultimates. Pre Flashpoint Superman couldn't have done that while drained and kryptonite poisoning.

Dan Jurgens himself clarified that.

https://mobile.twitter.com/thedanjurgens/status/743479302646177792

He states he's no longer depowered not that New52 Superman was above Pre52 Superman.

As far as it goes it sounds like Rebirth Superman is the one that isn't weakened. Given the post date on twitter.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
PF Supes cheapies, but not out for the count. Last panel shows him reacting to the blast still in mid air.

By Abhi's logic, everytime someone gets punched hard and sent away they are KO'd. That's simply not the case.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/27592345/Superman_2011-_052-014.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/27592357/Superman_2011-_052-015.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/27592382/Superman_2011-_052-016.jpg.html

Not the first time it happened.

😂

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
He states he's no longer depowered not that New52 Superman was above Pre52 Superman.

As far as it goes it sounds like Rebirth Superman is the one that isn't weakened. Given the post date on twitter.

😬

Best u can hope for from that cheapshot is a flash ko. PF Supes was punched hard, sent falling downwards, and gathered himself since he was not really KO'd.

Last panel says it all.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That's some nice circular reasoning. Yes, absorbing the power of Universes means you are at that level.

Remember Krona?

Unless someone is shown doing something of that physical power know your not at that level. It's hollow.

Unless Mobius punches are suggested or shown to affect Universes he doesn't have Universal Striking Power.

Unless Mobius moves a Universe he doesn't have Universal strength.

Unless Mobius blast and affects and entire universe preferably destroy he doesn't have Universal destroying power.

Absorbing a Universe is pretty hollow because it doesn't apply what Attributes it even helps of any. Regardless Anti-Monitor > Mobius.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Vandal Savage's plan was stopped way before Superman started dying.

😬

I couldn't stand Truth and everything after so I didn't follow it. Something with a meteor that kept Vandal a love for so long.

I'll probably just take your word for it given that it would make sense that New52 Superman having Kryptonite poisoning would effect Pre52 Superman in anyway

Regardless it was a still a cheapshot, you can't judge power level solely on that, and of we didn't and just looked at feats PC Superman has the better ones,

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
I couldn't stand Truth and everything after so I didn't follow it. Something with a meteor that kept Vandal a love for so long.

I'll probably just take your word for it given that it would make sense that New52 Superman having Kryptonite poisoning would effect Pre52 Superman in anyway

Regardless it was a still a cheapshot, you can't judge power level solely on that, and of we didn't and just looked at feats PC Superman has the better ones,

He is the master of calling out cheapskate so long as it's against Superman.

Looks like the topic has changed. I guess I can put these scans to the side, for now.

Originally posted by carver9
Looks like the topic has changed. I guess I can put these scans to the side, for now.

Originally posted by carver9
Looks like the topic has changed. I guess I can put these scans to the side, for now.

No Carver, the topic has not changed despite great effort to do so on the part of some.

I'll just make a thread.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Best u can hope for from that cheapshot is a flash ko. PF Supes was punched hard, sent falling downwards, and gathered himself since he was not really KO'd.

Last panel says it all.

You are still paddling that bullshit?

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
Unless someone is shown doing something of that physical power know your not at that level. It's hollow.

So his absorbed energy of universes just went nowhere?

Unless Mobius punches are suggested or shown to affect Universes he doesn't have Universal Striking Power.

Unless Mobius moves a Universe he doesn't have Universal strength.

Unless Mobius blast and affects and entire universe preferably destroy he doesn't have Universal destroying power.

But he already destroyed and absorbed the power of entire universes. Your whining wouldn't change that.

Absorbing a Universe is pretty hollow because it doesn't apply what Attributes it even helps of any. Regardless Anti-Monitor > Mobius.

Haha, this is just like "Planets weigh as much as building."

Of course, Anti-Monitor had ALE which is pretty much abstract level power in itself.

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
I couldn't stand Truth and everything after so I didn't follow it. Something with a meteor that kept Vandal a love for so long.

I'll probably just take your word for it given that it would make sense that New52 Superman having Kryptonite poisoning would effect Pre52 Superman in anyway

Regardless it was a still a cheapshot, you can't judge power level solely on that, and of we didn't and just looked at feats PC Superman has the better ones,

Even with a cheapshot, post crisis Superman couldn't have done that.

Originally posted by carver9
Yep. This scene...

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/24576643/Sinestro-017-2016-Digital-Empire-013.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/24576614/Sinestro-017-2016-Digital-Empire-017.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/24576620/Sinestro-017-2016-Digital-Empire-018.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/24576625/Sinestro-017-2016-Digital-Empire-019.jpg.html

When it comes to facing physical characters, they are nothing but fodder.

I really wanted to see how Bekka vs Wonder Woman would turn out.