Originally posted by BestDebaterEver
Can I see the quote explaining to exactly what extent they are taught unarmed martial arts?Hett was trained in Teras Kasi so that isn't exactly a product of his Jedi tutelage, but I see your point overall.
It's not exactly outright stated what specific unarmed martial arts they are trained in, just that they are formidable opponents without even having to activate their sabers.
So what was left? Her own fighting skills. These were not inconsiderable-Jedi were trained in all manner of disciplines, both mental and physical, and the Masters knew there were times when use of the Force was not appropriate. Even without activating her lightsaber, she was someone to be reckoned with.
- Taken from Medstar 1: Battle Surgeons
Mind you this is Barriss here, who is still a Padawan at the time, not even a Knight yet.
I mean there are showings of great H2H prowess which suggest this, such as from Master Dass Jennir.
The best visual showing of this from what I can find, is from Master Ferroda who easily dispatches like 8 of the 501st in H2H.
Being trained in all "manners" of disciplines means that rudimentary unarmed combat could have been covered and nothing more, and the manner of discipline that is unarmed fighting will have been covered. I don't think you can use the unarmed skills of other Jedi to vouch for Anakin.
So to say Anakin has "extensive" H2H training doesn't seem to be based on anything. His showings against other fights in H2H seem lacklustre for the most part, especially compared to someone like Grievous who is one of the very best.
Originally posted by BestDebaterEver
Being trained in all "manners" of disciplines means that rudimentary unarmed combat could have been covered and nothing more, and the manner of discipline that is unarmed fighting will have been covered. I don't think you can use the unarmed skills of other Jedi to vouch for Anakin.So to say Anakin has "extensive" H2H training doesn't seem to be based on anything. His showings against other fights in H2H seem lacklustre for the most part, especially compared to someone like Grievous who is one of the very best.
Why not? He went through the same training they did, perhaps he didn't have an upkeep on it, but he's still trained but I mean I'm not saying Anakin has a chance here with just H2H considering Grevious has molly whooped several Jedi Knights and Masters.
Originally posted by BestDebaterEver
You posted a video of a Jedi showing pretty high level H2H skill which could easily be unique to him due to further training he undertook, I see no reason to attribute that to Anakin.
I wasn't attributing that to Anakin? I was merely showing that Jedi have shown H2H skill, I realize that Jedi would have varying degrees. You said Anakin didn't have any formal training with H2H, I showed otherwise by referencing quotes and showings that Jedi do train in such things.
Weither or not Anakin upkeeps with that isn't the case I'm bringing here. Perhaps extensive wasn't the exact wording I should have made, so I reel that part in.