Nah hit me up when anyone here can teleport at light speed, dominate the minds of a thousand people, cause pain to those around him with their mere presence and hold together the remains of a 600-m cruiser through sheer power, the bridge of which he could shake with his anger alone. He's plainly superior.
He's also been regarded as the second most powerful Sith in the Empire, which would make him stronger than Malgus and the Dread Masters. mmm
And I don't think in matters, he sufficiently outstrips Bane & Zannah (the latter of whom is a defensive duelist regardless) in the Force to overwhelm them through sheer power.
1. "Teleport at light speed"? Well, he may as well blitz here, doesn't he? It's called precognition.
2. He caused no pain when Cipher stood against them aboard his Dreadnaught. There's no reason to suspect that he can meaningfully afflict Bane and Zannah.
3. TOR is a medium where you can get some pretty exaggerated and over-the-top feats, so that's worth keeping mind. With that said, if you want to play exaggerated feats game, didn't Zannah shield herself from planetwide storms as a child?
4. Watcher Two, who isn't even Force sensitive, declared Jadus as second only to the Emperor. Not a reliable source.
5. I doubt it. He's clearly very powerful, but not particularly competent as a fighter.
Originally posted by SunRazerI wasn't making the point that those feats were combat applicable. But that holistically Jadus is significantly more powerful than Bane or Zannah.
1. "Teleport at light speed"? Well, he may as well blitz here, doesn't he? It's called precognition.2. He caused no pain when Cipher stood against them aboard his Dreadnaught. There's no reason to suspect that he can meaningfully afflict Bane and Zannah.
Not that being able to teleport at will isn't a very handy ability.
3. TOR is a medium where you can get some pretty exaggerated and over-the-top feats, so that's worth keeping mind.As are all Legends sources according to Force & Destiny, a pointless distinction.
With that said, if you want to play exaggerated feats game, didn't Zannah shield herself from planetwide storms as a child?You mean a side-by-side comparison of feats? I don't know Nova, sounds a little dangerous 😕
And yeah she did, didn't amount to Jadus tier powers in her prime tho.
Watcher Two, who isn't even Force sensitive, declared Jadus as second only to the Emperor. Not a reliable source.The second in command to Imperial Intelligence, whose job it is to know shit is not a reliable source? OK. And I'm not a Force sensitive either, I can still understand their powers and whose stronger than who. His ranking being supported by Valkorion's praise as the greatest Sith his empire ever produced.
I doubt it. He's clearly very powerful, but not particularly competent as a fighter.Or maybe Cipher 9 is just that good. Or maybe the fight didn't occur as game mechanics represented it. mmm
Given his other accolades, accomplishments and status I don't find it very compelling evidence of his ineptitude.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
I wasn't making the point that those feats were combat applicable. But that holistically Jadus is significantly more powerful than Bane or Zannah.
No, he's more powerful by feats. Holistically, Bane was more powerful than all of the dark side energies unleashed across Ambria in the Sorceress' failed ritual.
Not that being able to teleport at will isn't a very handy ability.
It is, but the speed you're suggesting is clearly exaggerated.
As are all Legends sources according to Force & Destiny, a pointless distinction.
But there are some more exaggerated than others, as people on this forum like to claim regarding DE and OCW. TOR is the same.
You mean a side-by-side comparison of feats? I don't know Nova, sounds a little dangerous 😕
You might think that. I couldn't possibly comment.
And yeah she did, didn't amount to Jadus tier powers in her prime tho.
Zannah's always been reserved with her powers. We've never seen the full extent of them, except Sorcery. That said, if she's blocking planetwide firestorms with her Force Barrier as a child, yeah, as an adult, she's going to be around Jadus' tier at least.
The second in command to Imperial Intelligence, whose job it is to know shit is not a reliable source? OK.
How on earth would she know how powerful the Sith are if she can't sense them through the Force? But of course, AotC Obi-Wan is as powerful as Mace Windu and Dooku a match for Yoda, cuz all statements are reliable.
And I'm not a Force sensitive either, I can still understand their powers and whose stronger than who.
I wasn't aware that Imperial Intelligence had out-of-universe perspectives, out-of-universe sourcebooks and could debate in out-of-universe forums and share knowledge that way. Links?
His ranking being supported by Valkorion's praise as the greatest Sith his empire ever produced.
Greatest =/= best, an argument that's floated around the forum for ages. I believe Valkorion said this because Jadus was the one of the few Sith in the Empire who was not "bound by ancient, irrelevant dogma" as Marr was.
Or maybe Cipher 9 is just that good. Or maybe the fight didn't occur as game mechanics represented it. mmm
Sure, he's that good, but if Jadus is any good as a combatant, he'd still beat Cipher Nine.
Given his other accolades, accomplishments and status I don't find it very compelling evidence of his ineptitude.
His status doesn't relate to his skills in combat, nor do any of his accolades or accomplishments. He's incredibly powerful, as I said, but not a good combatant.