Lumiya vs Darth Zannah

Because Sidious had a fatal injury when he begged Mace for his life?

Come on, now. You're getting your skull smashed in. That's death.

Ok, so if Windu had finished the job and killed him, and you saw an image of that, you'd just conclude that Windu blitzed him in two seconds?

Or what if you saw Obi Wan standing over Anakin's burning body on Mustafar - did Obi Wan oneshot him? 🙄

Honestly that makes complete sense from a logical standpoint Ell. This is why I'm not ashamed to admit you're such a great debater when you're not trolling.

"Great debater", lmao.

Zannah stomps.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Ok, so if Windu had finished the job and killed him, and you saw an image of that, you'd just conclude that Windu blitzed him in two seconds?

Or what if you saw Obi Wan standing over Anakin's burning body on Mustafar - did Obi Wan oneshot him? 🙄

Except this isn't "Jacen standing over Lumiya's corpse with no context whatsoever", this is Jacen throwing Lumiya into a wall with TK, crushing her skull and killing her.

Lumiya was overpowered in TK by Nelani, Jacen would annihilate her.

We don't know how long they fought before Lumiya was overwhelmed by Caedus.

He wasn't Caedus yet. And if her skull was crushed by him throwing her into a wall, it probably wasn't a long fight. Besides, who cares if they clashed blades for a while until Jacen hurled her into the wall and killed her?

Because it means he couldn't immediately overwhelm her without tiring her out beforehand. Also how do we know he didn't simply catch her by surprise. Context Nova.

Because Lumiya's telekinesis isn't even remotely approachable to his? Lumiya tires easily anyway - she was tired from just matching Nelani Dinn's telekinesis. It's really not hard to imagine Jacen ragdolling her.

*Shrug* I just don't think we should assume until we have context.

It's not as if Jacen couldn't ragdoll her anyway.

But we would assume that based on relative feats. Not a vision without the proper context.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Zannah stomps.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Except this isn't "Jacen standing over Lumiya's corpse with no context whatsoever", this is Jacen throwing Lumiya into a wall with TK, crushing her skull and killing her.

Ok, so if you saw Obi Wan cutting Anakin in half, would you conclude that it was a curbstomp? You're assuming context that just isn't there.

Not that it matters because I'm not denying Caedus could ragdoll Lumiya; he could ragdoll Zannah too.

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