Majin Buu vs Frieza

1st form Frieza from RoF vs Fat Buu, who wins??

First form stomps imo. It depends on if Gohan knew what he was talking about in regards to his power level. I think Gohan knows his power level better than anyone. With that said, Frieda stomps with ease.

Yeah, Frieza stomps. Super Boo (Gohan) or Super Vegetto would be a better fight for Frieza, honestly...

Yeah, Freeza should stomp. It was certainly implied that he was already in the upper-echelon of ki the Z Fighters had EVER felt up to that point... And that was before he downed Gohan with a single hit.

Majin Buu basically gave gohan that treatment too though, if I could place Gohans power this would be easier.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Majin Buu basically gave gohan that treatment too though, if I could place Gohans power this would be easier.

This Gohan was said to be more powerful than ever...then he went Super Saiyan and still got dropped and almost killed with a single hit. That's why I said, if we take Gohan statement about his power level as fact, this is a non fight.

>If we take Gohan's statement about his power level as fact
>Gohan himself stated he was weaker in the show

Frieza massacres.

Buu solidly. Gohan was significantly weaker when he fought Frieza in Super as opposed to when he fought Fat Buu. It was a struggle for him to go SS1 as of Super, where he was able to achieve SS2 on a whim as of the 25th World Martial Arts Tournament. Looking at his fight with Tagoma/Ginyu, SS1 Gohan is probably no stronger than Frieza's second form as of Namak. I would rate 1st-form-Frieza as Semi-Perfect Cell tier at best, possibly a bit higher. It would be a decent fight, but Buu wins for sure.

Originally posted by Tondemonai
Buu solidly. Gohan was significantly weaker when he fought Frieza in Super as opposed to when he fought Fat Buu. It was a struggle for him to go SS1 as of Super, where he was able to achieve SS2 on a whim as of the 25th World Martial Arts Tournament. Looking at his fight with Tagoma/Ginyu, SS1 Gohan is probably no stronger than Frieza's second form as of Namak. I would rate 1st-form-Frieza as Semi-Perfect Cell tier at best, possibly a bit higher. It would be a decent fight, but Buu wins for sure.

😱

Eh I never watched the DBS retelling of Fukkatsu no F, but Gohan was much weaker in the movie. Did they actually change that in DBS, and Gohan was even stronger when Frieza one-shot him?

I wouldn't say stronger, just more impressive. Plus the movie isn't even canon, so using references from it is pointless.

Okay, but if the series and movie are roughly the same thing, then we can reference the movie all we want, as long as they don't contradict each other.

How was Gohan more impressive in Super than during DBZ? Did he one-shot someone stronger than Super Buu? Because if not, then we still don't know how strong he was. And weren't you the one who just Gohan was significantly weaker in Super than in Z?

I thought you were saying the movie vs Super. No he is much weaker in Super than DBZ, I was saying he is more impressive in Super as opposed to the movie. It is stated that the Tagoma (who was overpowering base-Gohan) had "surpassed the Ginyu Elites," as in a power level of at least over 120,000. This was before Ginyu took his body, seeming to increase his power. I'd scale Tagoma-Ginyu as roughly 1st form Frieza as of Namek (power level of 530,000), so base Gohan in Super is weaker than he was by the end of the Namek Saga.

Gohan is weak in DBS, much weaker than when he was at his peak in DBZ.

With little training he would top himself from DBZ.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Okay, but if the series and movie are roughly the same thing, then we can reference the movie all we want, as long as they don't contradict each other.

How was Gohan more impressive in Super than during DBZ? Did he one-shot someone stronger than Super Buu? Because if not, then we still don't know how strong he was. And weren't you the one who just Gohan was significantly weaker in Super than in Z?

He hung with someone that he himself said was stronger than his mystic self (Gohan did). Nothing points to Gohan being weaker.

Originally posted by carver9
He hung with someone that he himself said was stronger than his mystic self (Gohan did). Nothing points to Gohan being weaker.

I think Gohan not being in shape and not training anymore means he was already weaker. However, I think he could quickly top himself.

Damn near everything was wrong about the power levels in that arc.

Again, Gohan stated that he couldn't bring out his full power because he hadn't been training 😂

He definitely wasn't mystic.