It's super-weird that he lost so much power after what? Less than a year?
What he said about Tagoma/Ginyu doesn't make much sense either... some make theories that he mixed SSJ with the Mystic form like in GT to match him...
Toriyama failed there big time, the worst part was Kamesennin being equal to/slightly inferior to Krillin... being in a fight he had no business being in... and tutoring Krillin like in the old times all of a sudden.
I miss GT.
Originally posted by Damborgson
Yeah, I hear he said something about Ginyu being close to his old self or something to that extent? The intent should be clear, but that he could barely go super saiyan and then whips his ass when he does go super saiyan doesn't make things very clear.
Gohan never said anything like that about Tagoma-Ginyu, and if you actually take the time to observe the statements made for power scaling, I found it mainly points to Tagoma-Ginyu being roughly equal to 2nd form Frieza as of Namak. It's not realistic that he would lose so much power, but it makes sense that he would given that he stated that he lost the ability to tap into his power like he used to. It's like not being able to open a lid all the way, you might be able to get it to open a jar to have the contents leak out, but you don't get much of anything from it at all.
Originally posted by Tondemonai
Gohan never said anything like that about Tagoma-Ginyu, and if you actually take the time to observe the statements made for power scaling, I found it mainly points to Tagoma-Ginyu being roughly equal to 2nd form Frieza as of Namak. It's not realistic that he would lose so much power, but it makes sense that he would given that he stated that he lost the ability to tap into his power like he used to. It's like not being able to open a lid all the way, you might be able to get it to open a jar to have the contents leak out, but you don't get much of anything from it at all.
Gohan said that he/Tagoma is more powerful than him at his best. Seems pretty clear to me.
Originally posted by Tondemonai
Gohan never said anything like that about Tagoma-Ginyu, and if you actually take the time to observe the statements made for power scaling, I found it mainly points to Tagoma-Ginyu being roughly equal to 2nd form Frieza as of Namak. It's not realistic that he would lose so much power, but it makes sense that he would given that he stated that he lost the ability to tap into his power like he used to. It's like not being able to open a lid all the way, you might be able to get it to open a jar to have the contents leak out, but you don't get much of anything from it at all.
No he did, you'd know that if you took the time to observe it.
That's obviously not correct.
I've never seen the quote either; only Gohan saying that he couldn't draw out his full power because he hadn't been training.
That said, the fact that Tagoma could rape Piccolo with ease, combined with the fact that the kids didn't seem to think they could take him on without fusion, leads me to believe that he's at least SSJ2 level. It was implied that he was much weaker than SSJ Gotenks, though.
Either way, First Form Frieza should stomp; Boo's regeneration should allow him to put up a fight, but his power is on a different level... Super Boohan would have been a better match for Frieza.