Originally posted by NewGuy01
Democrats are probably hardcore conservatives from SunRazer's Australicancer POV.
I know the Republicans are the conservatives, lol. That's why Ronald Reagan trumps all.
The Democrats are the Liberals. In Australicancer political system, our Liberal Party is now the conservative party 🙂
Originally posted by SunRazer
I was the one who brought up that a cruiser could be up to 215m in length for Dooku's feat, which is the length of the Corsair. I'm saying that what Kun did to it is far better than what Dooku did.
How so would it be "far better"? IIRC Nihilus's ship was laying in orbit around Malachor V and he only made it operational again. The same can be said about Kun's Corsair, he made it operational again instead of litteraly lifting it up with his TK.
The flagships weren't in orbit. It says right there that they were buried and got lifted out of the planets with telekinesis.
That said, it does shut the book on Nihilus holding the ship together and dragging it around like some people suggest. He just lifted the ship up and made it operational again, just like Kun.
Originally posted by DarthDuelist9
How so would it be "far better"? IIRC Nihilus's ship was laying in orbit around Malachor V and he only made it operational again. The same can be said about Kun's Corsair, he made it operational again instead of litteraly lifting it up with his TK.
Lol, re-read the quote dumbhead:
"similar to the way Darth Nihilus would raise the Ravager from the ruined surface of Malachor V."
Originally posted by SunRazer
The flagships weren't in orbit. It says right there that they were buried and got lifted out of the planets with telekinesis.That said, it does shut the book on Nihilus holding the ship together and dragging it around like some people suggest. He just lifted the ship up and made it operational again, just like Kun.
It says that it was "raised" from the planet, that hardly means Kun used TK, not to mention that it seems kind of weird that a fully operational ship needed external aid to fly? I just feel we're all neglecting the uncertainties of the feat and using it in the most favorable way for Kun.
Originally posted by SunRazer
Who said the ship was fully operational when it was buried? The quote says right there that Kun had to make it serviceable, and it mentions him doing it after raising it as well.
Because Kun found the ship in a hangar...So how would Kun exactly first lift the ship with his TK and then secondly make it fully operational again?
Originally posted by DarthDuelist9
Because Kun found the ship in a hangar...So how would Kun exactly first lift the ship with his TK and then secondly make it fully operational again?
What? The ship was huge and a temple was built around it. And the quote above literally mentions that the ship was buried, and I pulled the quote out for you.
Originally posted by SunRazer
What? The ship was huge and a temple was built around it. And the quote above literally mentions that the ship was buried, and I pulled the quote out for you.
IIRC it was shown in Tales of the Jedi: Dark Lords of the Sith 5, that he found the ship in a hangar. It's still weird that Kun would first lift the ship and then repair it? What would happen with it in the meantime?
Telekinetic suspension? Making it operational might not have been that hard for him anyway.
I just feel we're all neglecting the uncertainties of the feat and using it in the most favorable way for Kun.
It specifically mentions Kun doing it in a similar fashion to how Nihilus resurrected the Ravager, which was through telekinesis. You're trying to find holes where there are none.
Originally posted by SunRazer
Telekinetic suspension? Making it operational might not have been that hard for him anyway.It specifically mentions Kun doing it in a similar fashion to how Nihilus resurrected the Ravager, which was through telekinesis. You're trying to find holes where there are none.
There are a lot more similarities between Nihilus's case and Kun's, for example the fact that they both repaired an older ship in order to get off the planet their trapped on. You're neglecting all other evidence provided by more detailed sources on this matter, if we're going to go only by these kind of quotes Dooku is an equal of Yoda and has even penetrated Yoda's guard on Vjun. Yet looking at the more detailed sources on this, like TotJ is in this case, we see that there is a lot of extra information which influences these feats (Yoda destracted by saving another person or Dooku fleeing in AotC) which these limited quotes don't provide. You're assuming directly the most favorable position for Kun in this scenario, which is a possibility but nothing more then that.
Originally posted by DarthDuelist9
There are a lot more similarities between Nihilus's case and Kun's, for example the fact that they both repaired an older ship in order to get off the planet their trapped on. You're neglecting all other evidence provided by more detailed sources on this matter, if we're going to go only by these kind of quotes Dooku is an equal of Yoda and has even penetrated Yoda's guard on Vjun. Yet looking at the more detailed sources on this, like TotJ is in this case, we see that there is a lot of extra information which influences these feats (Yoda destracted by saving another person or Dooku fleeing in AotC) which these limited quotes don't provide. You're assuming directly the most favorable position for Kun in this scenario, which is a possibility but nothing more then that.
Repaired his ship? What? I'm not assuming anything that's directly favorable - the quote says he did something like what Nihilus did, which was to raise the ship out of Malachor V. You've invented a lot of false context in this thread already.
Originally posted by SunRazer
Repaired his ship? What? I'm not assuming anything that's directly favorable - the quote says he did something like what Nihilus did, which was to raise the ship out of Malachor V. You've invented a lot of false context in this thread already.
The Tempest actually clarified what I meant to say and well you are neglecting things like for example how the Corsair was in a hangar instead of litteraly buried or how apparently sourcebook quotes now give the complete picture despite that I provided examples where they absolutely didn't.