The Void vs The Black Order

Originally posted by Insane Titan
point is WWH showed things that scared him/he feared didn't work anymore due to his lvl of anger and that mindset continued from there on.

That's your bias opinion , that's it seeing as Hulk held back against Sentry.

Again your showing a Hulk before WWH where fear could affect him. Fact is reed replicated the exact aura that calms Hulk down , and as stated with the fear the calming aura failed badly because Hulk had become a different monster.

What I'm trying to say is that it doesn't really matter if the Hulks scared or not or at WWH levels because its not going to matter against the Void. The Void would wreck him regardless, as he has done before.

Originally posted by tkitna
What I'm trying to say is that it doesn't really matter if the Hulks scared or at WWH levels because its not going to matter against the Void. The Void would wreck him regardless, as he has done numerous times before.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
you're simply ignoring what was shown for the sake of your argument. Of course it matters that was the whole point of showing what Hulk anger had done to him power lvl. On panel facts show what worked before failed miserably this time, and just to say "uh no it works" is trolling as you're trying to validate your point using a weaker less angry Hulk that was clearly inferior in every to the Hulk from WWH onwards.

Ok, I agree that WWH is superior, but I'm not seeing how that matters as the Void would still beat that version too, so I guess the whole thing is a moot point.

Originally posted by tkitna
Ok, I agree that WWH is superior, but I'm not seeing how that matters as the Void would still beat that version too, so I guess the whole thing is a moot point.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
it's not a moot point at all, it's valid and logic reasoning as something that worked before didn't work again due to his power/anger been to great.

It is a moot point in the aspect that nothing he has done pertains to the Void. Ok, he's not scared of the Void now, what does that gain the Hulk? Nothing. He is still going to lose just as he did before. Seriously, if your argument is that WWH will be more resistant to having his bones broken by the Void, then I agree with you, but there will still be broken bones.

Originally posted by tkitna
It is a moot point in the aspect that nothing he has done pertains to the Void. Ok, he's not scared of the Void now, what does that gain the Hulk? Nothing. He is still going to lose just as he did before. Seriously, if your argument is that WWH will be more resistant to having his bones broken by the Void, then I agree with you, but there will still be broken bones.

And his tendrils can be used not just for crushing if it comes to it.

Originally posted by tkitna
It is a moot point in the aspect that nothing he has done pertains to the Void. Ok, he's not scared of the Void now, what does that gain the Hulk? Nothing. He is still going to lose just as he did before. Seriously, if your argument is that WWH will be more resistant to having his bones broken by the Void, then I agree with you, but there will still be broken bones.

Void's healings cant be overcome by team.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
that's the whole point Hulk was so shit scared he couldn't fight back/get angry. His whole power set ur strength, healing etc is based of his anger. So in other words he said wasn't able to do what he does because of said fear, which is no longer there. FFS it's not rocket science.

He wasnt always scared though (happened after receiving multiple beatings), and the few times he went at the Void super pissed and trying to win, he either got one shotted or beaten to within an inch of his life.

Anyways, lets get to the bottom line here. Are you attempting to suggest that WWH can beat the Void, because thats what it sure sounds like? If not, can we both agree that WWH would fair a tad better than the other versions before getting beat and then we can move on?

Originally posted by tkitna
He wasnt always scared though (happened after receiving multiple beatings), and the few times he went at the Void super pissed and trying to win, he either got one shotted or beaten to within an inch of his life.

Anyways, lets get to the bottom line here. Are you attempting to suggest that WWH can beat the Void, because thats what it sure sounds like? If not, can we both agree that WWH would fair a tad better than the other versions before getting beat and then we can move on?

Hulk beating Void or vice versa is irrelevant, as the thing came about because Void fanboys said Proximas weight of a star wouldn't work Void because of what Void did to Hulk. Which is again Bullshit to use as the a Hulk Proxima faced is stronger than the one Void beat.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
beaten a weaker Hulk within a inch of his life, wtf is it about that you can't understand? As WWH and from then onwards has been far more powerful etc.

Hulk beating Void or vice versa is irrelevant, as the thing came about because Void fanboys said Proximas weight of a star wouldn't work Void because of what Void did to Hulk. Which is again Bullshit to use as the a Hulk Proxima faced is stronger than the one Void beat.

No matter what you think of that Hulk do you genuinely think given how easily he was dispatched that Savage Hulk would be a challenge? That say Maestro would be a challenge? I don't think Hulk just let the Void break every bone in his body. I bet he tried to resist but he wasn't strong enough.

Plus once the tendrils get him that adds a whole other dimension to the battle.

i think what they were trying to say is PHYSICALLY hulk is stronger... i honestly cant think of to many instances of the void showing feats of physical raw power... in overall ability and strength there is no comparrison

not even with the help of thanos there not beating void

Originally posted by Insane Titan

Hulk beating Void or vice versa is irrelevant, as the thing came about because Void fanboys said Proximas weight of a star wouldn't work Void because of what Void did to Hulk. Which is again Bullshit to use as the a Hulk Proxima faced is stronger than the one Void beat.

The question then is do you think the Hulk that Proxima faced is more powerful than the Void? I only ask because a Hulk that was enraged was so easily dispatched by the Void that I dont believe it would matter. I cant see any version of the Hulk being able to defeat the Void.

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
No matter what you think of that Hulk do you genuinely think given how easily he was dispatched that Savage Hulk would be a challenge? That say Maestro would be a challenge? I don't think Hulk just let the Void break every bone in his body. I bet he tried to resist but he wasn't strong enough.

Plus once the tendrils get him that adds a whole other dimension to the battle.

Or when Hulk rips a tendril off.

Originally posted by tkitna
The question then is do you think the Hulk that Proxima faced is more powerful than the Void? I only ask because a Hulk that was enraged was so easily dispatched by the Void that I dont believe it would matter. I cant see any version of the Hulk being able to defeat the Void.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
physically stronger yeah.

I seriously doubt it. Remember this showing of the Void when he was just walking through multiple heros? They were attacking him like a bunch of dog pecker gnats and the Void barely registered that they were there. None of them could even scratch him. Luckily for them, Bob shut him down. Basing an opinion off of the WWH/Sentry fight, I cant see how Hulk could ever be stronger than the Void.

Originally posted by zopzop
No way is Hulk stronger than Void my friend. Lifting feats aside, he's already broken Hulk's bones like dry sticks.

Void going all out would crush the Order.

Originally posted by tkitna
I seriously doubt it. Remember this showing of the Void when he was just walking through multiple heros? They were attacking him like a bunch of dog pecker gnats and the Void barely registered that they were there. None of them could even scratch him. Luckily for them, Bob shut him down. Basing an opinion off of the WWH/Sentry fight, I cant see how Hulk could ever be stronger than the Void.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
Hulk held back against Bob which is fact. Plus Hulk has gone through teams of heroes before and we've seen heros do more then scratch Void with attacks.

You mean during SIEGE? When all the heroes were ridiculously amped? And if you want to use the Ares example all that did was make it easier for the Void to escape. Since he was trying to break out anyway.