Originally posted by One_Angry_Scotthey wasn't ridiculously amped, all the stones did was rejuvenate the heroes. Ares damaging Sentry is still proof as Hulk hits far far harder. Plus Thors hits killed him.
You mean during SIEGE? When all the heroes were ridiculously amped? And if you want to use the Ares example all that did was make it easier for the Void to escape. Since he was trying to break out anyway.
Originally posted by Insane Titan
Hulk held back against Bob which is fact. Plus Hulk has gone through teams of heroes before and we've seen heros do more then scratch Void with attacks.
And Bob still took him to the limit even being half out of his mind and fighting like a retarded person. Thats also a fact.
I've never seen any version of the Hulk go through a team of heros as casually as the Void did in the example I gave. Especially the caliber of characters that were there.
Oh you mean Siege where the Norn Stones were being used and Bob trying to regain control. Even though Void almost took out the entirety of Asgard, I still consider Siege as a low showing for him. He has better feats.
Originally posted by Insane Titan
they wasn't ridiculously amped, all the stones did was rejuvenate the heroes. Ares damaging Sentry is still proof as Hulk hits far far harder. Plus Thors hits killed him.
Norn stones amped them; Absorbing Man (I think?) asks Daisy if they would be allowed to keep their new powers.
EDIT: Oh, I messed the threads up and thought that his was the War Hulk thread. Still, the points apply for both threads, I guess.
Originally posted by Insane Titan
they wasn't ridiculously amped, all the stones did was rejuvenate the heroes. Ares damaging Sentry is still proof as Hulk hits far far harder. Plus Thors hits killed him.
1. The heroes were ridiculously amped. Multiple characters even talked about new powers / power upgrades:
http://i.imgur.com/LjBM8Ca.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/sv33eBo.jpg
Also this is Captain America pre power upgrade:
http://i.imgur.com/SkEM1C3.jpg
And this is Captain America post power upgrade:
http://i.imgur.com/LjBM8Ca.jpg
See how now with the power upgrade all of a sudden even someone like Captain America is capable of damaging the Sentry? Also pay attention to the rainbow glow that every empowered hero has.
I would also like to point out that SIEGE was a massive event, which featured a ton of characters. In the SIEGE issues you only saw a handful of heroes, but fact is, that there were plenty others, which you see in the last scan. And they all got empowered and attacked the Sentry from all sides.
Speaking of power upgrades... This is Thor without a power upgrade:
http://i.imgur.com/IEHrXo7.jpg
And this is Thor again post power upgrade, finally able to hurt the Sentry:
http://i.imgur.com/LjBM8Ca.jpg
I would like to point out that Captain America actually decapitates the Sentry:
http://i.imgur.com/IqnQNaS.jpg
But the Sentry, at that point a floating head is still alive and kicking and kills Loki:
http://i.imgur.com/7bAAA3q.jpg
So you have the Sentry, a guy, who got ripped apart on a molecular level and came back instantly after. Got beheaded and fought on like nothing happened and ripped his own head apart and proceeded to do whatever he wanted... fighting against a guy, who can punch hard... And you're really trying to make an argument for the puncher? Come on now.
2. There is a big difference between punching and stabbing. Ares was able to penetrate Sentry's sides (which are not protected by bones or anything else super dense other than his skin) with his axe. And to my knowledge his axe is made out of adamantium.
Not that punching and stabbing matters at all, like we've established it above.
3. You've also said, that Hulk held back against the Sentry in WWH. Well, he kinda didn't, since he did revert back to his human form during that fight. Why? To not hurt Sentry, who was reverting back to Robert as well?
No, Hulk reverted back, because at that point he had spent all of his gamma energy:
http://i.imgur.com/7o1sbYm.jpg
And there is a ton of context, which proves, that Sentry during WWH was at his absolute lowest power wise and that he exponentially becomes stronger the more mentally stable he is.
4. Thor "killed" Sentry, because Robert Reynolds allowed it to happen. If he didn't wish to die at that point, Thor's attacks would have had as much impact as they did, when he told the Sentry, he would attack him with all the power under his command:
http://i.imgur.com/ybfzNPr.jpg
Thor couldn't even defeat the Sentry when he had massive Norn Stone rainbow amps:
http://i.imgur.com/IqnQNaS.jpg
Even after Sentry destroyed Asgard and killed Loki, Thor wasn't able to stop him. You can see Thor's enraged with only the white in his eyes showing, attacking the Sentry with absolutely no effect:
http://i.imgur.com/sv33eBo.jpg
And even the writer of that story went on to say that the Avengers only won, because Sentry allowed it to happen.
You can hate the Sentry all you want, but no version of Hulk is beating him. There is only a handful of reasonable debates you can have, when it comes to the Sentry. Why? Because anyone, who is supposed to go toe to toe with him needs to have hax abilities beyond belief.
Originally posted by tkitnawasn't his limit at all, as seen when he reverted back to Hulk and started to go WB.
And Bob still took him to the limit even being half out of his mind and fighting like a retarded person. Thats also a fact.I've never seen any version of the Hulk go through a team of heros as casually as the Void did in the example I gave. Especially the caliber of characters that were there.
Oh you mean Siege where the Norn Stones were being used and Bob trying to regain control. Even though Void almost took out the entirety of Asgard, I still consider Siege as a low showing for him. He has better feats.
He went through virtually every team on earth casually whilst holding back.
Like I said the norm only rejuvenated the heroes.
Other than Thor Asgard didn't have anyone that great in it tbh.
Originally posted by EnzeruDid not read, after all it's you and "your the Sentry" 😂
[b]EDIT: Oh, I messed the threads up and thought that his was the War Hulk thread. Still, the points apply for both threads, I guess.1. The heroes were ridiculously amped. Multiple characters even talked about new powers / power upgrades:
http://i.imgur.com/LjBM8Ca.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/sv33eBo.jpgAlso this is Captain America pre power upgrade:
http://i.imgur.com/SkEM1C3.jpg
And this is Captain America post power upgrade:
http://i.imgur.com/LjBM8Ca.jpg
See how now with the power upgrade all of a sudden even someone like Captain America is capable of damaging the Sentry? Also pay attention to the rainbow glow that every empowered hero has.
I would also like to point out that SIEGE was a massive event, which featured a ton of characters. In the SIEGE issues you only saw a handful of heroes, but fact is, that there were plenty others, which you see in the last scan. And they all got empowered and attacked the Sentry from all sides.
Speaking of power upgrades... This is Thor without a power upgrade:
http://i.imgur.com/IEHrXo7.jpg
And this is Thor again post power upgrade, finally able to hurt the Sentry:
http://i.imgur.com/LjBM8Ca.jpg
I would like to point out that Captain America actually decapitates the Sentry:
http://i.imgur.com/IqnQNaS.jpg
But the Sentry, at that point a floating head is still alive and kicking and kills Loki:
http://i.imgur.com/7bAAA3q.jpg
So you have the Sentry, a guy, who got ripped apart on a molecular level and came back instantly after. Got beheaded and fought on like nothing happened and ripped his own head apart and proceeded to do whatever he wanted... fighting against a guy, who can punch hard... And you're really trying to make an argument for the puncher? Come on now.
2. There is a big difference between punching and stabbing. Ares was able to penetrate Sentry's sides (which are not protected by bones or anything else super dense other than his skin) with his axe. And to my knowledge his axe is made out of adamantium.
Not that punching and stabbing matters at all, like we've established it above.
3. You've also said, that Hulk held back against the Sentry in WWH. Well, he kinda didn't, since he did revert back to his human form during that fight. Why? To not hurt Sentry, who was reverting back to Robert as well?
No, Hulk reverted back, because at that point he had spent all of his gamma energy:http://i.imgur.com/7o1sbYm.jpg
And there is a ton of context, which proves, that Sentry during WWH was at his absolute lowest power wise and that he exponentially becomes stronger the more mentally stable he is.
4. Thor "killed" Sentry, because Robert Reynolds allowed it to happen. If he didn't wish to die at that point, Thor's attacks would have had as much impact as they did, when he told the Sentry, he would attack him with all the power under his command:
http://i.imgur.com/ybfzNPr.jpg
Thor couldn't even defeat the Sentry when he had massive Norn Stone rainbow amps:
http://i.imgur.com/IqnQNaS.jpg
Even after Sentry destroyed Asgard and killed Loki, Thor wasn't able to stop him. You can see Thor's enraged with only the white in his eyes showing, attacking the Sentry with absolutely no effect:
http://i.imgur.com/sv33eBo.jpg
And even the writer of that story went on to say that the Avengers only won, because Sentry allowed it to happen.
You can hate the Sentry all you want, but no version of Hulk is beating him. There is only a handful of reasonable debates you can have, when it comes to the Sentry. Why? Because anyone, who is supposed to go toe to toe with him needs to have hax abilities beyond belief. [/B]
Originally posted by Enzerucry more you delusional moron. Nothing you ever say is true.
Well, you should read it, because it features all the answers you're looking for. If you don't read it, then you'll continue spreading misinformation. But if that's what you want, don't let me stop you.
When's your next leaving the board forever meltdown?
Originally posted by Insane Titan
cry more you delusional moron. Nothing you ever say is true.
Anyone, who has ever read a Sentry comic will see how everything I write is on point, while you get things wrong left and right. If there is one guy, who is not lying about Sentry related stuff, it's me.
You on the other hand? Oh boy. The Norn stones supposedly not providing power upgrades is your most recent lie. If you didn't read the comics, then look at my post. If you don't know the context, then look at my post.
But not that any of this matters. I've made my case. Now anyone, who is actually interested in the topic can read through my post and will get an educated opinion on that matter... and ignore yours.
Originally posted by Insane Titan
When's your next leaving the board forever meltdown?
I have left these boards. Or do I strike you as an active member of this community?
Originally posted by Enzeruyour opinion is irrelevant to me, as your a raging fanboy who lies, twists context.
Anyone, who has ever read a Sentry comic will see how everything I write is on point, while you get things wrong left and right. If there is one guy, who is not lying about Sentry related stuff, it's me.You on the other hand? Oh boy. The Norn stones supposedly not providing power upgrades is your most recent lie. If you didn't read the comics, then look at my post. If you don't know the context, then look at my post.
But not that any of this matters. I've made my case. Now anyone, who is actually interested in the topic can read through my post and will get an educated opinion on that matter... and ignore yours.
I have left these boards. Or do I strike you as an active member of this community?
Saying you will never be back in a massive b*tch fit I might add.
Originally posted by Insane Titan
they wasn't ridiculously amped, all the stones did was rejuvenate the heroes. Ares damaging Sentry is still proof as Hulk hits far far harder. Plus Thors hits killed him.
And you're not making a better argument by insulting Enzeru and ignoring him either.
You don't believe it amped them despite evidence to the contrary which I can show you.
It is useless Thunder God! The enchantment of the Norns is in my hand! Not even your hammer can set him free!"
"Though the Norn Stones cannot affect the plants, they have the power to transform my own body's molecules!"
"With this one in hand, the power of flight is mine!"
"I must employ the second stone... "The ground shatters beneath my feet
"Aye--and their eyes emanate some form of destructive beam. The Norn Stones doing no doubt"
"Let me cast out the power of my imaginings to those mortals who would defend our honour"
"Both Asgardian and Mortal. together empowered"
And we all know what empowered means but lets paste in a few definitions of it.
"make (someone) stronger and more confident, especially in controlling their life and claiming their rights."
"to give power to (someone)"
First you have the image at the top of Caps shield piecing the Void (which proves how crazy an amp it was. Now onto the scan.
[i]"Yo Daisy, do we get to keep these new powers when we're done?"
[i]"I can't believe Loki did this. He took our power away and gave it to them"
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I'm sorry but Ares breaking his skin open doesn't mean much at all. All it did was help the Void to break more of his body out of the Sentry's husk.
Another example shown here.
