Originally posted by One_Angry_Scotwho knows , but to use a weaker version of Hulk is just plain crap.
Was he stronger than every hero on Earth put together + a bit extra? I don't think he was so either way it wouldn't matter.
War Hulk stopped the Juggernaut and had more of a affect on him than the godblast.
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
What would you say it means then? And Rogue never actually stopped Exitar. In 2 minutes time Exitar would have destroyed the Earth again. Rogue was failing to stop Exitar with all of this power she had then Sentry comes in to assist. Cap says Rogue was half of the equation, and then I could go even more in depth but I won't.In short Sentry either perfectly matched Rogue's power or slightly succeeded it (if you were of the belief that Sentry did more of the heavy lifting).
As I said to Titan, do you think War Hulk was stronger/more powerful (however you prefer to phrase it) than every hero on Earth put together + a bit extra?
She slowed down the full power of Exitar. She just needed some assistance at halting him. Her "slowing him down" speaks volumes. Sentry aiding in stopping him completely.
Also, didn't Hulk stop Exitar at one point but failed to hold him back long time?
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
What would you say it means then? And Rogue never actually stopped Exitar. In 2 minutes time Exitar would have destroyed the Earth again. Rogue was failing to stop Exitar with all of this power she had then Sentry comes in to assist. Cap says Rogue was half of the equation, and then I could go even more in depth but I won't.In short Sentry either perfectly matched Rogue's power or slightly succeeded it (if you were of the belief that Sentry did more of the heavy lifting).
As I said to Titan, do you think War Hulk was stronger/more powerful (however you prefer to phrase it) than every hero on Earth put together + a bit extra?
What's sentrys last appearance
Originally posted by carver9
She slowed down the full power of Exitar. She just needed some assistance at halting him. Her "slowing him down" speaks volumes. Sentry aiding in stopping him completely.Also, didn't Hulk stop Exitar at one point but failed to hold him back long time?
What is Savage's limit?
Originally posted by carver9
She slowed down the full power of Exitar. She just needed some assistance at halting him. Her "slowing him down" speaks volumes. Sentry aiding in stopping him completely.Also, didn't Hulk stop Exitar at one point but failed to hold him back long time?
I think you're being a bit disingenuous by saying.
"She slowed down the full power of Exitar. She just needed some assistance at halting him."
She hardly slowed him down at all and it was more than "needing assistance".
Every hero on Earth gave her everything they've got and it's not enough. The Celestial is still sinking down, and in a few moments will break Earth's crust.
You can't sit there and tell me that she merely "needed assistance" and she "slowed him down" seems a bit untrue considering it wasn't enough according to Tony since Exitar seemingly was still moving without any trouble.
Originally posted by Insane Titan
who knows , but to use a weaker version of Hulk is just plain crap.War Hulk stopped the Juggernaut and had more of a affect on him than the godblast.
We can both probably say he isn't. And it doesn't really matter if we used War Hulk, Savage Hulk, Gravage, Maestro or World War Hulk in his place. It's a proven fact that is shown as him being more powerful than every hero on the Earth put together + a bit extra and suddenly adding War Hulk to that point in time would make negligible difference. Unless you believe War Hulk is more powerful than every hero on Earth put together.
Do you consider the things you listed as being better feats than being shown to be more powerful than every hero on Earth put together and stopping Exitar?
Originally posted by Sin I AM
What's sentrys last appearance
That would be Uncanny Avengers #22. Over a year now I believe. All because Remender "left" of his own accord.
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scotno we both can't say that, War Hulk is stronger than all them Hulks barring maybe WWH.We can both probably say he isn't. And it doesn't really matter if we used War Hulk, Savage Hulk, Gravage, Maestro or World War Hulk in his place. It's a proven fact that is shown as him being more powerful than every hero on the Earth put together + a bit extra and suddenly adding War Hulk to that point in time would make negligible difference. Unless you believe War Hulk is more powerful than every hero on Earth put together.
Do you consider the things you listed as being better feats than being shown to be more powerful than every hero on Earth put together and stopping Exitar?
War Hulk over come Juggernauts enchantment, something the God blast couldn't do. Do you think DS is more powerful than the GB and where it draws power from?
Originally posted by Insane Titan
no we both can't say that, War Hulk is stronger than all them Hulks barring maybe WWH.War Hulk over come Juggernauts enchantment, something the God blast couldn't do. Do you think DS is more powerful than the GB and where it draws power from?
Like I said. It wouldn't matter what version is used because for this to actually be a fight you'd have to tell me whether you believe War Hulk is more powerful than every hero on Earth put together. If you don't believe that then we know the outcome. E.g do you believe that War Hulk and Death Seed Sentry could have stopped Exitar?
I don't think it's fair to use ABC logic here. So are you now suggesting War Hulk is more powerful than the force of the Godblast? Or do you believe it is a different situation and thereby cannot Hulk cannot be compared to a blast that has sent a weakened Galactus to the winds fearing for his life.
You asking me whether I believe that Sentry is more powerful than something irrelevant to this battle seems like just a completely random question because that wasn't my intention to begin with and your question appears to be on the basis of Hulk being superior to the Godblast.
to help aid ... the rogue taking on power from every hero on earth including hulk was not enough to stop exitar... it was sentry who came and stopped exitar completley
with that said sentry would absolutely stomp here
my question about the war hulks biggest feat is... is it a high showing for him or a low showing for juggernaut?
i agree with the guy above (i forgot go quote forgive me) which enchantment is more powerful? cyttoraks enchantment or stopping exitar?
Under closer inspection, I believe that Death seed Sentry was Rogue's equal, and he tipped the balance in Earth's favor. It was never shown that he stopped Exitar all by himself, so in all fairness there really isn't very much solid proof that he was actually stronger than all of Earth's heroes put together. There is also no proof that War Hulk was stronger than all of the heroes either, but what we do know, is that War Hulk, like most Hulk (Banner) incarnations can continue growing in power. Did it ever specifically state that Rogue had strength amping abilities? If not we could assume that she only gained Hulk's base strength, and not the amplifications that he can tap into. In my opinion, this is a question that can not be answered.
Originally posted by h1a8Not really. After they locked-up, it only took WAR about a page to amp enough to completely stop Juggernaut's full-force charge, and proceed to ragdoll him:
Also WH had to take a long time to amp just to stop Juggs.
Not even WWH was capable of outright stopping Juggernaut's charge via brute strength--he had to use Juggy's momentum against him.
Originally posted by yaadaveyaaPlease remember: it was a *shared* feat between Rogue and Sentry... Robert certainly did not do all the work by himself. srsly
it was sentry who came and stopped exitar completley
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Remember, Sentry did what Rogue, WITH Hulk AND everyone else's strength, was unable to do.
People aren't going to like this View but what if Sentry was like a spotter?
A guy on the bench press gets stuck on the way up, the spotter uses a couple of fingers to help lift the weight back up.
Now does this mean that the spotter applied the same amount of strength as the guy on the bench? Similarly, Rogue was already lifting and stalled, sentry came in and helped push exitar.
That is certainly one way of looking at the scene(anyone who has ever lifted weights can understand exactly where you're coming from.) But you're right, I'm sure you'll get flack for it, lol.
Personally, I opt for it being a 50/50 shared feat, solely in the spirit of fairness. Your interpretation does make sense to me, though. 👆
