Originally posted by Diesldude
People aren't going to like this View but what if Sentry was like a spotter?A guy on the bench press gets stuck on the way up, the spotter uses a couple of fingers to help lift the weight back up.
Now does this mean that the spotter applied the same amount of strength as the guy on the bench? Similarly, Rogue was already lifting and stalled, sentry came in and helped push exitar.
By saying this though, dont we have to take weight distribution into account? Rougue was only under one foot, so it was uneven weight or half the weight as the comic would have us believe. A weight lifter has a balanced weight, so I dont think that example works here.
Originally posted by tkitna
By saying this though, dont we have to take weight distribution into account? Rougue was only under one foot, so it was uneven weight or half the weight as the comic would have us believe. A weight lifter has a balanced weight, so I dont think that example works here.
Originally posted by Galan007I got you. My opinion of a long time is 1min or more. I believe it took WH more than a minute to stop Juggs. Juggs pushed him back at least a mile (looking at the tracks left) and Juggs is not that fast.
Not really. After they locked-up, it only took WAR about a page to amp enough to completely stop Juggernaut's full-force charge, and proceed to ragdoll him:
Not even WWH was capable of outright stopping Juggernaut's charge via brute strength--he had to use Juggy's momentum against him.
Please remember: it was a *shared* feat between Rogue and Sentry... Robert certainly did not do all the work by himself. srsly
I agree that WH achieved a final strength level greater than WWH due to the logic you used.
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scotyeah war Hulk and Sentry would have stopped Exitar. Rogue did the hardest part by taking the initial weight. Like Galan said Death Sentry did the "spotting". We've seen weaker Hulk hold similar weights before.
Like I said. It wouldn't matter what version is used because for this to actually be a fight you'd have to tell me whether you believe War Hulk is more powerful than every hero on Earth put together. If you don't believe that then we know the outcome. E.g do you believe that War Hulk and Death Seed Sentry could have stopped Exitar?I don't think it's fair to use ABC logic here. So are you now suggesting War Hulk is more powerful than the force of the Godblast? Or do you believe it is a different situation and thereby cannot Hulk cannot be compared to a blast that has sent a weakened Galactus to the winds fearing for his life.
You asking me whether I believe that Sentry is more powerful than something irrelevant to this battle seems like just a completely random question because that wasn't my intention to begin with and your question appears to be on the basis of Hulk being superior to the Godblast.
You've just used abc logic against War Hulk because a version of Hulk was among the group with Rogue etc. Yeah it can be said War Hulk is stronger then the godblast. That Hulk was amped by Celestial tech.
Not irrelevant at all. War Hulk did something the GB couldn't therefore showings his power/strength. It clearly shows he was way above his normal showings of strength.
Originally posted by Insane Titan
yeah war Hulk and Sentry would have stopped Exitar. Rogue did the hardest part by taking the initial weight. Like Galan said Death Sentry did the "spotting". We've seen weaker Hulk hold similar weights before.You've just used abc logic against War Hulk because a version of Hulk was among the group with Rogue etc. Yeah it can be said War Hulk is stronger then the godblast. That Hulk was amped by Celestial tech.
Not irrelevant at all. War Hulk did something the GB couldn't therefore showings his power/strength. It clearly shows he was way above his normal showings of strength.
So you think War Hulk is more powerful than every hero on Earth put together then?
Galan never said anything about spotting. He mentioned the 50/50 thing. He just said he saw that point of view.
Originally posted by Insane TitanGalen didn't say that, someone else did. Galen just said it was a possibility. The spotting theory is destroyed due to the unbalanced weight. One can't spot from a side.
yeah war Hulk and Sentry would have stopped Exitar. Rogue did the hardest part by taking the initial weight. Like Galan said Death Sentry did the "spotting". We've seen weaker Hulk hold similar weights before.You've just used abc logic against War Hulk because a version of Hulk was among the group with Rogue etc. Yeah it can be said War Hulk is stronger then the godblast. That Hulk was amped by Celestial tech.
Not irrelevant at all. War Hulk did something the GB couldn't therefore showings his power/strength. It clearly shows he was way above his normal showings of strength.
Anyway it was clearly the writer's intentions that Sentry supplied EXACTLY half the force. This is because the writer wrote "half of the equation". He's trying to get the reader to view that Sentry is the other half.
Its funny how people create theories of things the writer doesn't show or give evidence to. Sentry didn't spot for the simple reason there is no evidence that he did. We go by writer's intentions. If the writer wanted the reader to know that Sentry spotted then he would have wrote something pointing to it.
Originally posted by h1a8H1 schooled Lord Boo. 😂
Galen didn't say that, someone else did. Galen just said it was a possibility. The spotting theory is destroyed due to the unbalanced weight. One can't spot from a side.Anyway it was clearly the writer's intentions that Sentry supplied EXACTLY half the force. This is because the writer wrote "half of the equation". He's trying to get the reader to view that Sentry is the other half.
Its funny how people create theories of things the writer doesn't show or give evidence to. Sentry didn't spot for the simple reason there is no evidence that he did. We go by writer's intentions. If the writer wanted the reader to know that Sentry spotted then he would have wrote something pointing to it.
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scotcould be yeah, who knows. We do know he was able to do what the GB couldn't and we all know the power needed for that.
So you think War Hulk is more powerful than every hero on Earth put together then?Galan never said anything about spotting. He mentioned the 50/50 thing. He just said he saw that point of view.
Well who ever said then. Storm took the first brunt of the weight , Sentry did the easier part.
Originally posted by h1a8your nonsense of writers intention mean nothing as you constantly pick and choose what is allowed.
Galen didn't say that, someone else did. Galen just said it was a possibility. The spotting theory is destroyed due to the unbalanced weight. One can't spot from a side.Anyway it was clearly the writer's intentions that Sentry supplied EXACTLY half the force. This is because the writer wrote "half of the equation". He's trying to get the reader to view that Sentry is the other half.
Its funny how people create theories of things the writer doesn't show or give evidence to. Sentry didn't spot for the simple reason there is no evidence that he did. We go by writer's intentions. If the writer wanted the reader to know that Sentry spotted then he would have wrote something pointing to it.
Originally posted by quanchi112😂 the mixed kickball league player is here Bwhahahaha, trying to cheerleader a non event.
H1 schooled Lord Boo. 😂
Originally posted by Insane TitanH1 showed a better grasp of the subject matter than the pinhead himself. Size really does matter. Apparently.
your nonsense of writers intention mean nothing as you constantly pick and choose what is allowed. 😂 the mixed kickball league player is here Bwhahahaha, trying to cheerleader a non event.
Here in lies the fallacy in relying completely on "feats." You all are doing what Abby does all the time. The (fan labelled) feats should be a consideration only. This is NOT math, nor actual history, nor are we dealing with reality.
The vast majority of the time, writers don't write so called feats as direct comparisons to previous feats by previous writers, nor do they always consider them "feats" as defined by KMC posters. Different writers, different circumstances, sometimes from different eras. What's more important is (surprise!) average portrayals. But for one time characters and incarnations, you have no choice but to go by that portrayal. It's okay to consider and assess the writer's view of the power level of the character in the story arc because that is the best information. In the case of DS and WH, both one arc characters, you don't need to look outside of these two story arcs for your decision. I personally believe DS was more powerful and would win.
