Star Wars: The Last Jedi

Started by Darth Thor210 pages
Originally posted by quanchi112
Not to the extent Gotg and Strange were given the success they had at that point. Safer ideas until those films but marvel has always been amazing both in the comics and in the films.

IM was a massive risk. Superhero films weren't all just guaranteed box office success's in those days.

Thor again was a massive risk, especially after TIH didn't do too well, and Thor as a concept seemed a bit out there.

GOTG may have been riskier as an individual film, but it was less of a risk for Marvel given Marvel was already HUGE by then, and could easily have afforded 1 flop.

Marvel has taken risks from day 1 which is why they are where they are.

Force Awakens played it completely safe and took no risks whatsoever. It's success was built solely on nostalgia to one of the biggest film and franchise of all time. Now with that Disney marketing boost, it's The Biggest franchise once again.

Completely safe play by Disney Lucasfilm. Not at all comparable to how Marvel studios made it's name.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You were all over DCs nuts before Batman v. Superman and showed where your allegiance is truly at.

I never gave my allegiance to DC over Marvel. I was simply looking forward to what DC could do with their shared Cinematic Universe after what Marvel did, and after what DC had previously done with the Nolan Batman franchise, and what Snyder did with Watchmen.

The potential was there, but none of that makes me a DC fanboy. My favorite 2/3 superheroes and superhero franchises are actually Marvel.

So stop acting crazy.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, it wasn't. Only fanboys went nuts over it but in the end it besmirched Vader more than anything else. It took away from his mystique, his competence, and he had some cringe worthy lines.

Snoke and Kylo Ren are truly exciting characters in which you've already shit on and want just more of the same from the Ot characters. Times they are a changing. I am the future of star wars. 😂

Again stop acting crazy. I've taken you off ignore, as I'm not even on these boards as often nowadays. Don't make me regret that decision.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
IM was a massive risk. Superhero films weren't all just guaranteed box office success's in those days.

Thor again was a massive risk, especially after TIH didn't do too well, and Thor as a concept seemed a bit out there.

GOTG may have been riskier as an individual film, but it was less of a risk for Marvel given Marvel was already HUGE by then, and could easily have afforded 1 flop.

Any big budget film is a risk. I am saying after the combined cinematic universe became real and a huge success these films were riskier projects on more unknown properties. Thor was a risk as well but I believe Gotg and Strange were greater risks. It also didn't help neither of the Thor films were that good. My point was clear when you have built momentum and established a brand consumers can trust you'll try a riskier idea. We see the same thing with Star Wars. I believe the riskier projects or ideas will happen after they have put out safer more reliable films that bank. You're free to disagree with that premise but it's sound marketing strategy.


Marvel has taken risks from day 1 which is why they are where they are.

Force Awakens played it completely safe and took no risks whatsoever. It's success was built solely on nostalgia to one of the biggest film and franchise of all time. Now with that Disney marketing boost, it's The Biggest franchise once again.

Completely safe play by Disney Lucasfilm. Not at all comparable to how Marvel studios made it's name.

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Yes, it is comparable. As I said we will see greater risks down the line just as with marvel. Force Awakens did play it safe and was a huge hit. It introduced fantastic new characters in Snoke and Ren. You disagree but this is a business and is about making money. You have the public is interest so it'll definitely not play it as safe down the line IMO.


I never gave my allegiance to DC over Marvel. I was simply looking forward to what DC could do with their shared Cinematic Universe after what Marvel did, and after what DC had previously done with the Nolan Batman franchise, and what Snyder did with Watchmen.

The potential was there, but none of that makes me a DC fanboy. My favorite 2/3 superheroes and superhero franchises are actually Marvel.

So stop acting crazy.

Again stop acting crazy. I've taken you off ignore, as I'm not even on these boards as often nowadays. Don't make me regret that decision. [/B]

You gave DC films more enthusiasm over Star Wars and Marvel. Unforgivable. I cannot fathom how anyone could be more excited for batman and superman than either of the other brands I just named.

Nolan wasn't involved in the same manner so why would it be as good ? Your posts and m.o. doesn't show it whereas no one has to wonder what I looked and which characters I enjoy.

I don't care if you ignore me or not I will remain who I always am to the bitter end. Just as Maul stayed true to himself I will remain true to myself.

Marvel didn't really have a "safe" property. If they had Spider-Man or the X-Men then of course they would have started with that. But I think things turned out for the best. Marvel were forced to take on riskier projects and it worked really well.

But of course any studio would rather play it safe first. But is that the best play for quality movies? Well you only have to turn to the DCEU to see that it's not.

I have never ever had more enthusiasm for comic book movies than for Star Wars. Ever. It's always Star Wars first, and Comic Book movies second. Terminator films would be be up there too but there's been too many bad sequels.

Nolan was involved with MOS. Plus had some faith in Warner Bros as they did a good job picking Nolan when he wasn't the biggest thing in town.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Marvel didn't really have a "safe" property. If they had Spider-Man or the X-Men then of course they would have started with that. But I think things turned out for the best. Marvel were forced to take on riskier projects and it worked really well.

But of course any studio would rather play it safe first. But is that the best play for quality movies? Well you only have to turn to the DCEU to see that it's not.

I have never ever had more enthusiasm for comic book movies than for Star Wars. Ever. It's always Star Wars first, and Comic Book movies second. Terminator films would be be up there too but there's been too many bad sequels.

Nolan was involved with MOS. Plus had some faith in Warner Bros as they did a good job picking Nolan when he wasn't the biggest thing in town.

Iron Man is a safer bet than Gotg especially at the time. It's sound business strategy but you need to make solid films. Man of steel, batman v. superman, and Suicide Squad have all been mediocre to terrible films IMO.

When asked you were more excited for Superman v. Batman but not me. And you don't have much faith in the First Order or the new trilogy's villains. Again I do. I'm the only Snoke fan on kmc.

Not to the same extent he was since he wasn't directing. Snyder is awful. Even the action in the DC comic book films have been repetitive and boring.

Lucafilm's plans beyond Episode 9

https://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/2017/03/do-not-post-lucasfilms-post-star-wars-episode-ix-plans.html

Okay... well... hope they find a way to make new stuff.

im all in if true...

http://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/lucasfilm-planning-fourth-star-wars-trilogy-episode-ix/

others well i have tp and kleenex for you

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i assumed that was the obvious plan when they acquired the franchise.

/duh

Where do we draw the line then? When does this franchise officially die? As much as I love Star Wars there's nyo room for new IPs man

They've already said nobody is going to live long enough to see the last Star Wars film.

The franchise will collapse into entropy.

If folks actually read my link, They're going to going on a hiatus with the Episode movies after Episode 9 before doing more.

^ Thats smart of them. The first episod of each new trilogy always makes bucket loads after a hiatus.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
^ Thats smart of them. The first episod of each new trilogy always makes bucket loads after a hiatus.

Also in the link i posted above it mentions in that Hiatus time frame, There could be spin-off movies, Such as a Kenobi movie set between Revenge of the Sith and A New Hope, with Ewan McGregor in tow

and also a Bounty Hunter movie and other movies.

^ Yeah I read your link. Makes sense tbh.

They can have their hiatus whilst still making money that way.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
They've already said nobody is going to live long enough to see the last Star Wars film.

The franchise will collapse into entropy.

The skywalker saga will more than likely be done by Episode 9, I don't see it going 12 movies unless Rey is a skywalker. The story has to end at some point, we can't keep dragging it forward.

Why? I don't see why 50 years from now, we see Cade Skywalker's grandkids in a movie. SW could be the first multi-generational movie franchise.

Originally posted by marwash22
i assumed that was the obvious plan when they acquired the franchise.

/duh

tell that to the naysayers hahaha

Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
Why? I don't see why 50 years from now, we see Cade Skywalker's grandkids in a movie. SW could be the first multi-generational movie franchise.
One family sustaining that many movies is ridiculous though. No single family of fictional characters is THAT special to have 12 feature films cover 3 successive generations and perhaps even more. By and large the saga movies are the skywalker story though, so chances are 10-12 will somehow incorporate the skywalkers

^ Pretty sure Kathleen Kennedy has already stated the Saga films will continue to explore the Skywalker family.

Their family does hold the balance of power in the Galaxy, so would be strange if they just disappeared for the very next trilogy.

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