Darth Malak and Darth Malgus vs. Darth Vader

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Darth Malak and Darth Malgus vs. Darth Vader

1. Force
2. Sabers
3. All-out

Peak Vader can probably scrap Malak but with Malgus constantly belting him with powerful attacks it would be hard. It all depends on how good people think Malak is.

Kek, no it wouldn't. Malgus isn't even close to Vader in anything besides skill, and that won't stop him from dying just as painful as a death as Malak.

Duo.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Kek, no it wouldn't. Malgus isn't even close to Vader in anything besides skill, and that won't stop him from dying just as painful as a death as Malak.

Malgus is no mug. I agree he isn't on Vader's level but he isn't a great deal off. He's as strong as Vader, more agile and his force attacks are potent.

He's so far behind Vader it's laughable. A bit of insulation was enough to stop his lightning. He straight up lost to mid-tier TOR protags, and that's being generous with him. He's nowhere near Vader, and pretty much the only thing that places him even on par with the likes of Obi-Wan or Anakin is wanking the protags. The ones he couldn't even kill a single one of.

The only thing laughable is your insane Malgus bias. Right after that he went on to overpower an extremely powerful Jedi and blast holes in him through his lightsaber defense. So he's able to char/disintegrate Jedi even before he gained immensely more powerful in Deceived. Right after he lifted and blew away the rubble of two large buildings. But no, he's nowhere near Vader, which is why Sidious told Vader to learn from Malgus specifically and said that Malgus' battlefield feats had never been equaled. But I'm sure Sidious has no clue what he's talking about, he's never been near a war ever in his entire life ever.

Revan, Soa, the Dread Masters, Lo'tek etc couldn't kill the TOR protags either. Maybe they're just, idk, really good? By themselves they're easily on par with Obi-Wan or Anakin (the force users at least) and Malgus took on 4 of them.

Vader, obviously.

Originally posted by Nephthys
The only thing laughable is your insane Malgus bias. Right after that he went on to overpower an extremely powerful Jedi and blast holes in him through his lightsaber defense. So he's able to char/disintegrate Jedi even before he gained immensely more powerful in Deceived. Right after he lifted and blew away the rubble of two large buildings. But no, he's nowhere near Vader, which is why Sidious told Vader to learn from Malgus specifically and said that Malgus' battlefield feats had never been equaled. But I'm sure Sidious has no clue what he's talking about, he's never been near a war ever in his entire life ever.

Revan, Soa, the Dread Masters, Lo'tek etc couldn't kill the TOR protags either. Maybe they're just, idk, really good? By themselves they're easily on par with Obi-Wan or Anakin (the force users at least) and Malgus took on 4 of them.

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Originally posted by Nephthys
The only thing laughable is your insane Malgus bias. Right after that he went on to overpower an extremely powerful Jedi

Said by no one.

and blast holes in him through his lightsaber defense.

Unlike anyone else he's ever faced ever. Is this how you determine if someone's really powerful? The fact that they die? Guess I found your source for Malgus.

So he's able to char/disintegrate Jedi even before he gained immensely more powerful in Deceived.

But can't do the same to standard issue Trooper armor.

Right after he lifted and blew away the rubble of two large buildings.

Which is a mid-tier feat for the novel he's in. Or does power-scaling only apply to TFU? I'm just completely shocked that you have double standards. Shocked!

But no, he's nowhere near Vader, which is why Sidious told Vader to learn from Malgus specifically

To be inspired by his example of being the Emperor's best soldier, not his amazing abilities.

and said that Malgus' battlefield feats had never been equaled.

They've already been outdone in TOR, not to mention all the far more impressive combatants since then.

But I'm sure Sidious has no clue what he's talking about, he's never been near a war ever in his entire life ever.

Or maybe you have no clue what you're talking about. One of those.

Revan, Soa, the Dread Masters, Lo'tek etc couldn't kill the TOR protags either.

Revan had to stop Revan, Soa, the Dread Masters, and Lo'tek aren't really that impressive either, so you're hardly making a point. Though I will say needing twice the number of people to defeat them doesn't exactly make Malgus look impressive, especially since Revan fought them at his peak, where as Malgus fought them all before anyone else on this list.

Maybe they're just, idk, really good? By themselves they're easily on par with Obi-Wan or Anakin (the force users at least) and Malgus took on 4 of them.

Or maybe you're just full of shit and wank the flash without taking it into context or applying the same logic you do to everything else to TOR because if you did you'd have less to go on to wank these characters, aside from baseless accolades that they can't even substantiate even when they are going all out. Could be either one, really, but then you'd be biased, and that certainly doesn't make sense.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
I'm just completely shocked that you have double standards. Shocked!

Well, Neph assures me he doesn't have those. At all.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Kek, no it wouldn't. Malgus isn't even close to Vader in anything besides skill, and that won't stop him from dying just as painful as a death as Malak.

Malgus is close to Vader in skill? ROFLAMO your TOR wank shows through again. 👆

Kill yourself.

If I did, as the biggest TOR fanboy on KMC you'd be an accomplice to homicide. 👆

Do I look like LeGenD to you?

Legend isn't competent to be charged of anything. You just hit the threshold.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Said by no one.

What, that the Jedi was extremely powerful? Pretty sure you don't need it in writing when he smashes two huge buildings on someone. But sure, if you want to accept that someone capable of that is a relative scrub in the Old Republic era, I guess I'll just have to accept that. Dang!

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Unlike anyone else he's ever faced ever. Is this how you determine if someone's really powerful? The fact that they die? Guess I found your source for Malgus.

Is this a serious argument, or just petty whinging? Aryn was clearly much more powerful than this Jedi, as are Adraas, Nox and the Wrath. That doesn't prevent him from being powerful in his own right, it's merely that Malgus faced the greatest warriors of his age.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
But can't do the same to standard issue Trooper armor.

That armor is displayed in the TOR encyclopedia as the armor of Havoc Squad, the most elite soldier squad in the galaxy. Try again.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Which is a mid-tier feat for the novel he's in. Or does power-scaling only apply to TFU? I'm just completely shocked that you have double standards. Shocked!

Novel? It's a short story in a magazine, bro. It's still an impressive feat, done 20 years and a oneness amp before his prime.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
To be inspired by his example of being the Emperor's best soldier, not his amazing abilities.

Because being the Emperor's best soldier has nothing to do with his amazing abilities, sure. That's why Sidious at no point makes mention of Malgus' combat abilities.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
They've already been outdone in TOR, not to mention all the far more impressive combatants since then.

Agreed, like I said clearly Darth Sidious has no clue. I mean, what relevance could this possibly have to someone like, oh I don't know, Darth Vader or Anakin Skywalker??? Obviously Sidious is wholly incapable of comparing them in the slightest. What a damn noob, amirite?

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Or maybe you have no clue what you're talking about. One of those.

I regret having to say this since I know that its basically your only card, but insults and dismissals don't actually counter peoples arguments. Kind of just a waste of your time and mine, honestly.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Revan had to stop Revan, Soa, the Dread Masters, and Lo'tek aren't really that impressive either, so you're hardly making a point. Though I will say needing twice the number of people to defeat them doesn't exactly make Malgus look impressive, especially since Revan fought them at his peak, where as Malgus fought them all before anyone else on this list.

Shouldn't that be "at their peak"? But yeah, Soa, the Dread Masters and Lo'tek aren't impressive. Thanks for clarifying that your shit opinion is more important than the multiple sources stating them to be threats to the Republic and Empire, Jedi and Sith Orders combined. As well as numerous sources stating their immense power and their high-level feats.

Maybe you should just take a break, man. Clear your head.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Or maybe you're just full of shit and wank the flash without taking it into context or applying the same logic you do to everything else to TOR because if you did you'd have less to go on to wank these characters, aside from baseless accolades that they can't even substantiate even when they are going all out. Could be either one, really, but then you'd be biased, and that certainly doesn't make sense.

The TOR protags have way more than flash and I'd be happy to link you to the numerous solid feats they possess. And in context they are still the greatest heroes in TOR, and have defeated some of the most powerful foes of the era. 'Thor is called one of the most powerful Masters in the orders history and defeated a Sith amped on the power of hundreds of Jedi Masters, the Hero is repeatedly stated to be the greatest Jedi Warrior alive and the only threat to Vitiate, Nox curbstomped a supremely powerful Sith and possesses the power of 6 Sith Lords combined, the Wrath killed an almost unstoppable Baras and defeated Sel Makor, the Champ slaughtered the Jedi Battlemaster and Tormen, Cipher dueled the greatest Sith Vitiates empire ever produced and even the Trooper and the Smuggler comfortably take down Sith Lords. So what context am I missing bro, enlighten me on what you could possibly know that I don't.

Nephthys
Agreed, like I said clearly Darth Sidious has no clue. I mean, what relevance could this possibly have to someone like, oh I don't know, Darth Vader or Anakin Skywalker??? Obviously Sidious is wholly incapable of comparing them in the slightest. What a damn noob, amirite?

I see your longstanding hypocrisy on this subject endures. Have you devised an actual rule for when random third party sentiments count for something or is it just fiat?

The only enduring theme I've observed is that it only counts if it wanks a character you like.

The rule is that Sidious is intimately familiar with Vader's feats both as himself and Anakin and still states Malgus' feats to be unequaled. So claims that Malgus is nowhere near him seem suspect at best.

It's about as funny as Ant not taking Darth Malak's opinion on Darth Revan > KotOR Revan seriously, but Meetra thinking Revan Reborn > Nihilus is gospel. These types of debaters really just make shit up as they go along.