AP, I'd like you to explain why no one should share the recalcitrance you had for Sheev's Force storm feat for this one here. If anything, Sheev's was far more straightforward and you still openly rejected it on a basis that you now claim shouldn't apply here because Star Wars is a fantastical IP.
This is a pretty blatant double standard.
Originally posted by AncientPowerUhuh still waiting for a source that states it's one big network.
Lol we have evidence of how their system works, its a network that is monitored by technicians. The population is 310,000,000,000, thats a lot of scanning and monitoring, even moreso during a war with a super power.
Which is a widely inaccurate figure if dated to modern times, and considering that no, we have no clue how much man power is required to surveil a city of this size, my guess remains as good as yours
Still sticking with 100-200. 🙂
Originally posted by SunRazer
It's a lot easier to just claim the other one ("consuming all of space"😉 is hyperbole, lol.
I'mma call bullshit. This feat of Kun's, like the last, has more holes than Swiss cheese. Sheev's feat is hilariously straightforward in comparison and the Kunts subjected themselves to punitive mental contortions to try to disregard it.
And anybody can look at any feat and say "lol hyperbole" pretty effortlessly. So then you have to ask: why is it hyperbole? And the reason cited is that it seems outlandish.
Yet AP says we can't dismiss feats for being outlandish in a fantastical IP.
So it's a pretty obvious double standard and there's no escaping it. The Kunts need to grow a pair and make the case or concede.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
I'mma call bullshit. This feat of Kun's, like the last, has more holes than Swiss cheese. Sheev's feat is hilariously straightforward in comparison and the Kunts subjected themselves to punitive mental contortions to try to disregard it.And anybody can look at any feat and say "lol hyperbole" pretty effortlessly. So then you have to ask: why is it hyperbole? And the reason cited is that it seems outlandish.
Yet AP says we can't dismiss feats for being outlandish in a fantastical IP.
So it's a pretty obvious double standard and there's no escaping it. The Kunts need to grow a pair and make the case or concede.
Clearly there is a difference between doing a feat - and saying you can do something. Regardless. When it comes to intellectual argumenti - please realise - that this is only a few shades ahead of Zoltan telling other users to kill self - for the blasphemous notion of having an opinion removed from his own. Now Beni, before you continue making numerous fallacies in single sentence dismissals, let me tell you why misrepresenting someone's argument - which is what you’re doing right now - is not the same as countering it. This is important. Now there are essentially two modes of refutation. The modes are 1 - ad rem. 2 - ad hominem. That is to say; you may show either that the proposition is not in accordance with the true nature of things - with absolute objective truth - or that it is inconsistent with other statements or admissions of our opponent - with truth as it appears to him. The latter mode of arguing - ad hominem - produces only a relative conviction, and makes no difference whatever to the objective truth of the matter. Now I’m aware deeper concepts spelled out with big boy words tend to overload that hamster wheel in your cranium, so let me spell it out.
Palpatine has nothing to do with this thread, so please stop crying about him.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
I'mma call bullshit. This feat of Kun's, like the last, has more holes than Swiss cheese. Sheev's feat is hilariously straightforward in comparison and the Kunts subjected themselves to punitive mental contortions to try to disregard it.And anybody can look at any feat and say "lol hyperbole" pretty effortlessly. So then you have to ask: why is it hyperbole? And the reason cited is that it seems outlandish.
Yet AP says we can't dismiss feats for being outlandish in a fantastical IP.
So it's a pretty obvious double standard and there's no escaping it. The Kunts need to grow a pair and make the case or concede.
Nah. The last one was up for debate, but in this one, the only thing up for debate is how many people were blinded.
Sheev's feat straightforwardly contradicts what the quote says, indeed. Or do we take the quote that claims Yoda tried to defeat Tyranus with the Force on Geonosis but failed?
As for Kun, I doubt it's hyperbole because it's supposed to something that fills in missing story context. I'm assuming that everything AP said regarding the context of the quote is true, of course.
Originally posted by SunRazer
Nah. The last one was up for debate, but in this one, the only thing up for debate is how many people were blinded.Sheev's feat straightforwardly contradicts what the quote says, indeed. Or do we take the quote that claims Yoda tried to defeat Tyranus with the Force on Geonosis but failed?
As for Kun, I doubt it's hyperbole because it's supposed to something that fills in missing story context. I'm assuming that everything AP said regarding the context of the quote is true, of course.
First, good for you for conceding that.
Second, there is no contradiction between Sheev's feat and the quote, otherwise I would agree.
Third, whether or not Kun is lying or misrepresenting facts is irrelevant to my point here. I'm wanting you to justify your double standards and, so far, I haven't seen anything beyond "it totes makes Kun look cooler."
Originally posted by The_Tempest
First, good for you for conceding that.Second, there is no contradiction between Sheev's feat and the quote, otherwise I would agree.
Third, whether or not Kun is lying or misrepresenting facts is irrelevant to my point here. I'm wanting you to justify your double standards and, so far, I haven't seen anything beyond "it totes makes Kun look cooler."
1. Alright.
2. The comic doesn't state or imply anywhere that there was a threat to all of space, which would portend a much greater threat that was illustrated in the comic. You didn't answer my question on Tyranus.
3. What double standards are you referring to, first? I didn't use AP's points in this thread, lol. For that matter, what the hell is your stance on why this quote is so unbelievable in the first place? I haven't bothered to keep up to date with all these pages of banter.
4. As for "it totes makes Kun look cooler", why is this not applicable to you when discussing how you immediately took on board the "all of space" quote?