Originally posted by chingchangwalla
Super Battledroids are about as strong as Grievous
Originally posted by chingchangwalla
Super Battledroids are about as strong as Grievous
Originally posted by chingchangwalla
Super Battledroids are about as strong as Grievous and Mace smashed through them with his fists
I need chemotherapy after reading this.
Grievous has casually crushed MagnaGuards, that destroyed Super Battle Droids simply by slamming them to the side.
And you're arguing they're about as strong? LMFAO.
Originally posted by chingchangwalla
Durability wise. They can both take multiple blaster bolts, but gets wrecked with a lightsaber. Obviously Grievous is stronger but he actually has hands (sort of)
Show me B2 Battle Droids tanking being in the center of a city-level explosion. B2's fall after three blaster shots, and GG would find 20 as mere annoyances.
Originally posted by chingchangwalla
I can see where you're coming from but it's Anakin's power in the force that grants him his strength, not his physiology. Malgus is nowhere near as powerful in the force and still a brute of a man
That's my point, lol. Malgus may be inherently stronger but Anakin's Force reserves utterly outclass his, and it's Force reserves that make the big difference (Palpatine vs Maul/Savage, for instance).
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
1. Anakin Skywalker did not actually break bones of Obi-Wan Kenobi. The former wasn't strong enough to do this to the latter.
I didn't say he broke his bones, I said he came close to it.
Observation: You are treating fanciful interpretations as facts in this case.
Canonical and legitimate facts, yes.
2. Aryn Leener spilled blood from her mouth. This implies serious internal injury.
She was vomiting blood because she cartwheeled into a rock. As I mentioned above, Obi-Wan's withstood immensely greater hits without being nearly as hurt. He's far, far more durable, and Anakin nearly broke his bones.
Observation: I see lowballing effort here.
Hard to say that when you're trying to deny somebody of their source so that you can win the debate.
Tell me! What is there to appreciate? Should I praise your levelheadedness in all this (which is nowhere to be seen by the way)?
You might think that; I couldn't possibly comment.
Originally posted by MythLord
I need chemotherapy after reading this.Grievous has casually crushed MagnaGuards, that destroyed Super Battle Droids simply by slamming them to the side.
And you're arguing they're about as strong? LMFAO.Show me B2 Battle Droids tanking being in the center of a city-level explosion. B2's fall after three blaster shots, and GG would find 20 as mere annoyances.
It was obviously an exaggeration. I know Grievous is stronger than some droids XD
Originally posted by chingchangwalla
It was obviously an exaggeration. I know Grievous is stronger than some droids XD
Grievous is infinitely beyond them in durability as well, lol. Super Battle Droids got wrecked by R2's flamethrower in RotS. Grievous withstands explosions of infinitely greater magnitude and emerges unharmed.
You're really running out of excuses, aren't you? lol
Anakin almost breaking Obi-Wan's bones with a metal arm is pretty worthless, Malgus was using his muscle crushing people everywhere (Featless or not). On feats Anakin probably wins, I'll give you that. But just look at Malgus. It's bloody common sense to see that a moody 20 year old with some muscle could not curbstomp that gargantuan in a fist fight.
LOL Looking back at comments from 2011 on the same thread.
Stealth Moose
This is so unfair. Darth Malgus as of Deceived would utterly rape Anakin. Hell, I bet he'd be a tough match for Mace or Dooku.
S_W_LeGenD
Malgus would destroy Anakin.
Dr McBeefington
Nothing about Anakin puts him on the same level, or even close to Malgus, as far as the force goes.
Dr McBeefington
There's more than enough to put Malgus firmly above Anakin. And that includes Anakin's one "super" feat.
> Complains about metal arm
> Anakin always has that metal arm
> Malgus' entire body was fitted with cybernetics, IIRC
LMAO. Your excuses are pathetic.
When that moody 20 year old has superior feats, far superior reserves, far superior Force augmentation, and has outdone feats of beings of similar/greater size and strength than Malgus, then yeah it's common sense that Malgus will be eating his own respirator after a brawl with Anakin.
Also, lol at the bandwagon fallacy you just pulled there.
Originally posted by chingchangwalla
Heavily dominating someone below the likes of Malgus (Kenobi) still doesn't mean he'll beat Malgus.
> Assuming Kenobi is below Malgus.
> KEK
Even if he is, it's not a dramatic difference. And still, a hindered Anakin dominating him(who's at least comparable to Malgus) should certainly prove how a superior Anakin is beating Malgus in any H2H fight they may have.
Originally posted by chingchangwalla
Grievous' main advantages come from his durability but yeah. I'm still not totally convinced that Grievous > Malgus in strength. Can you give me some solid feats?
Breaking lightsaber resistant phrik alloy, crushing Jedi's skulls and bones casually(better than crushing the trachea which is factually one of the most sensitive parts of the body), deflecting blasters with his claws, ripping apart durasteel, among other feats. Better than Malgus.
Originally posted by MythLord
> Assuming Kenobi is below Malgus.
> KEKEven if he is, it's not a dramatic difference. And still, a hindered Anakin dominating him(who's at least comparable to Malgus) should certainly prove how a superior Anakin is beating Malgus in any H2H fight they may have.
Breaking lightsaber resistant phrik alloy, crushing Jedi's skulls and bones casually(better than crushing the trachea which is factually one of the most sensitive parts of the body), deflecting blasters with his claws, ripping apart durasteel, among other feats. Better than Malgus.
I meant in physical strength. I don't think Anakin could just ragdoll Malgus.
They are good feats but Grievous is just inconsistent. Pretending TCW never existed, Greivous probably does win.
Originally posted by SunRazer
Is this in reference to the fight on Mustafar? We see Obi-Wan being overpowered in hand-to-hand at one point, and he could've well had his bones reach near-breaking point. It's not exactly clear, hence why the novel's explanation is relevant. Unless, of course, you're trying to deny perfectly countable showings for the sake of elevating your favorites?
Originally posted by SunRazer
That's because she ended up cartwheeling into a rock.
Originally posted by SunRazer
Compare that to Obi-Wan being accelerated into the Invisible Hand's wall with such force that the hydrofoam permacrete fell onto him, and even then he emerged unscathed except for a bump on his head. As you can imagine, Obi-Wan's Force-augmented durability is vastly beyond Aryn Leneer's, and Anakin came close to breaking his arms when considerably hindered. Now imagine Anakin at full strength. Beyond Malgus's strength? I think so.
A Lockheed plane L-188 Electra crashed in 1971, killing all on-board with the exception of a 17 year old girl.
I suppose that 17 year old girl was the strongest individual in the plane?
People have come out nearly unscathed from accidents that should [theoretically] eviscerate you. Even children.
Coming back to Star Wars:
Darth Malgus sent Jedi Master Ven Zallow crashing into a fallen column of stone with such a force that the latter bore right through it. But Ven Zallow endured no visible injury from the ordeal.
I suppose that Ven Zallow was much tougher than Aryn Leener.
Your assumption is utterly flawed.
Originally posted by SunRazer
You mean stuff that Grievous has done? He's crushed a Jedi Master's skull, literally smashed Sha'a Gi to death, kicked Ki-Adi Mundi into steel pillars with enough force to knock down said pillars, shattered phrik (which is lightsaber-resistant), and done this:http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111114474/4228550-vs+rogues.png
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This is the same guy that Dooku repeatedly duels against without struggle (not for the majority of cases, at least).
I suppose that the likes of Nahdar Vebb, Asajj Ventress and Kit Fisto are much tougher than Darth Malgus because they exchanged blows with General Grievous and did just fine?
My friend, you don't have a point here.
Originally posted by SunRazer
See above.
