Rank these characters in physical strength

Started by Ziggystardust3 pages

I don't see any proof of an 'amp'. Kun senses a power that wants to help him, that power being the spectral embodiment of Freedon Nadd, who appears in front of Kun and helps him find a pair of scrolls that lead to the "last home of the Sith", which would count as the "help". Anyway, it's pretty obvious that Nadd wasn't imbuing his power, as it's revealed that Kun has to "accept the Darkside" before such an occurrence: On the original point, Kun is successful in smashing the thick wall of Beskarr on his second attempt due to changing his lightsaber intensity, as narrated. Yes, but then we have the passage from Weapons and Tech stating it's highest intensity is no more powerful than a Regular blade.

Highest intensity, as Ziggy has already showed, is no more than the average intensity of any other lightsaber.

The power you refer to is likely the spirit of Freedon Nadd, but it's hardly evidence of some form of boost. Even if it was, this is still pre-dark side Exar Kun, who doesn't even compare to Exar Kun on Yavin IV.

The scans you kindly provided, clearly depict a hole a few feet long.

Is there any reason to think that Beskar is comparable to modern era Beskar?

Because it's the same ore and the secrets of forging it came from Mandalorians of the Old Sith wars era....

Any reason to believe those light-sabers are as strong as modern era lightsabers?

Remember - this is a contest of who's stronger...

That doesn't mean it hasn't been refined or improved upon in several thousand years. What are its showings in the old eras?

Ever heard of the Mando Wars? The tomb of Freedon Nadd is stated to be impervious to lightsaber blows by Kun himself in the same scene. He's just ludicrously strong.

Edit: I don't usually ask this, but source for the Beskar forging techniques being refined? Because by Legacy of the Force those teachings are almost dead.

Lightsabers are primarily doing damage through heat.

Star Wars logic. He broke through that lightsaber impervious wall the same way he broke through Vodo's Force-imbued staff, which is stated to be stronger than any lightsaber blade.

Star Wars logic?

Lightsaber blades, for some reason, seem to transfer strength of the weilder at a far higher magnitude than they should. The same applies here.

Originally posted by Ziggystardust
I don't see any proof of an 'amp'. Kun senses a power that wants to help him, that power being the spectral embodiment of Freedon Nadd, who appears in front of Kun and helps him find a pair of scrolls that lead to the "last home of the Sith", which would count as the "help". Anyway, it's pretty obvious that Nadd wasn't imbuing his power, as it's revealed that Kun has to "accept the Darkside" before such an occurrence:

Kun did accept the Dark Side, though, the moment Nadd's power touched him. Given how he sensed a power wanting to help him, and then goes on to slicing the Beskar. Occams Razor would dictate that Nadd's help was involved with Exar's cutting of the wall, given how it's stated there was a force that wanted to help him right before he struck said wall.

Originally posted by Ziggystardust
On the original point, Kun is successful in smashing the thick wall of Beskarr on his second attempt due to changing his lightsaber intensity, as narrated. Yes, but then we have the passage from Weapons and Tech stating it's highest intensity is no more powerful than a Regular blade.

Then a regular lightsaber can cut Beskar armor, assuming one uses enough strength to pierce it. Besides, pre-prime Grievous has similar feats.

Originally posted by AncientPower
The scans you kindly provided, clearly depicts a hole a few feet long.

From the third scan I posted, it seems to be only somewhat more thick than a lightsaber hilt is long, which is around 28 centimeters. So I'd say a foot is a fair estimate.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Lightsabers are primarily doing damage through heat.

That's... actually not true. I believe the Jedi Path notes a lightsaber's feat can only boil water, which I'm pretty sure wouldn't be enough to cut Grievous.

I don't even think that will cut humans, just burn them.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
The real question is how the f*ck Jango was killing Jedi with his bare hands (???)

Tbh we don't really see how or who the Jedi Jango killed, which would be huge factors. The Jedi he killed during Open Seasons, were in the middle of a battle(plus he also used a rock on one of them), hardly going for Jango all at once and the last Jedi he didn't kill with his bare hands, but using sand and his whipcord wire.

Originally posted by MythLord
Saba, Annie, Caedus and Vader are competitors for number 1.

The rest are irrelevant.

Ragnos beat the shit out of his Terantatek.

Whether or not he did it with a weapon is irrelevant, he was still able to use a blunt object to physically beat the thing into submission.

The second scan depicts the entire hole's width and length, the third is him exiting said hole. The second scan you provided depicts a fairly long hole.

Revan cut through beskar in the novel, IIRC.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Ragnos beat the shit out of his Terantatek.

Whether or not he did it with a weapon is irrelevant, he was still able to use a blunt object to physically beat the thing into submission.

He also used the Force to make it obedient, so him beating it up can be the equivalent of my great grandad beating an 80 pound, musclular pitbull.

Saba shattering teeth capable of munching on a rancor's neck and tearing through durasteel is a better feat.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Lightsaber blades, for some reason, seem to transfer strength of the weilder at a far higher magnitude than they should. The same applies here.

Or it's a combo of the heat weakening the metal and the force behind his blow breaking it. Like Grievous could.

Originally posted by AncientPower
The second scan depicts the entire hole's width and length, the third is him exiting said hole. The second scan you provided depicts a fairly long hole.

That has nothing to do with thickness. Now, can we please stop talking about Exar Kun's hole...

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Or it's a combo of the heat weakening the metal and the force behind his blow breaking it. Like Grievous could.

That and plasma energy.

It depicts that the wall was multiple feet in thickness, which is absolutely relevant.