Rank these characters in physical strength

Originally posted by MythLord
Kun did accept the Dark Side, though, the moment Nadd's power touched him.

Unsubstantiated.

Occams Razor

Here we go. Please note that Occams Razor is not - what I want something to be, when I want it. Occams Razors is the knowledge discovery system that says - given two models with the same generalization error, the one with less assumptions should be preferred. Which is where our interpretations differ.

Occams Razor would dictate that Nadd's help was involved with Exar's cutting of the wall, given how it's stated there was a force that wanted to help him right before he struck said wall.

Mythlord : Exar sensed a power that wants to help him. Assumption - he must have been amped.

Ziggs : Exar sensed a power that wants to help him. Fact - Exar did find a power that helped him by sharing scrolls leading to Korriban.

Occams Razor favors ziggs because his explanation requires the fewest assumptions, doesn't have any added context and is the simplest. And the simplest is the most desirable. The failure to break the beskar wall, followed by the intimidate success is explained by the lightsaber adjustment. That is all. However, if we were going with your explanation - that Nadd's spectre aided him - please realize, that's Kun does later one-shot Freedon Nadd with some blasts. I imagine any the potential he reached as Dark Lord of the Sith surpasses that of his Jedi self.

Then a regular lightsaber can cut Beskar armor, assuming one uses enough strength to pierce it.

Well done.

Besides, pre-prime Grievous has similar feats.

What exactly is 'Pre-prime' Grevious? Is that Grevious with less physical strength than his 'prime' self. Did he undergo some major change in cybernetics? Seen as those appendages would determine his strength.

Originally posted by Ziggystardust
Unsubstantiated.

Besides, y'know, a later scan noting how Exar Kun easily accepted Nadd's dark power when it touched it.

Originally posted by Ziggystardust
Here we go. Please note that Occams Razor is not - what I want something to be, when I want it. Occams Razors is the knowledge discovery system that says - given two models with the same generalization error, the one with less assumptions should be preferred. Which is where our interpretations differ.

Mythlord : Exar sensed a power that wants to help him. Assumption - he must have been amped.

Ziggs : Exar sensed a power that wants to help him. Fact - Exar did find a power that helped him by sharing scrolls leading to Korriban.

Occams Razor favors ziggs because his explanation requires the fewest assumptions, doesn't have any added context and is the simplest. And the simplest is the most desirable. The failure to break the beskar wall, followed by the intimidate success is explained by the lightsaber adjustment. That is all. However, if we were going with your explanation - that Nadd's spectre aided him - please realize, that's Kun does later one-shot Freedon Nadd with some blasts. I imagine any the potential he reached as Dark Lord of the Sith surpasses that of his Jedi self.

Do you need to be overly long in your responses, lmfao? I could've worded that in three sentences. Anyways, to answer your point:

Occams Razor is, in layman's terms, taking the simplest assumption as being more correct. Here, there is no fact. Why would attaining scrolls in any way be mentioned in a scan where Exar is struggling to cut through a wall? The narration notes as Kun puts his lightsaber on the highest intensity, he feels a chill, then he senses a power that is around him and wants to help him right before he cuts through the door. Why said power would be mentioned as he pierces the door and not after he enters the tomb, prior to Nadd's awakening could only be because Nadd aided Kun is getting into his tomb.

Kun's ability to one-shot Nadd later, with the amulets of Sadow, is irrelevant in this case as I am arguing for Kun during the time he raided Freedon's tomb. He should obviously be more than capable of achieving that feat as a Sith Lord.

Originally posted by Ziggystardust
What exactly is 'Pre-prime' Grevious? Is that Grevious with less physical strength than his 'prime' self. Did he undergo some major change in cybernetics? Seen as those appendages would determine his strength.

I recall him growing overall during the course of the war and as Lair of Grievous shows, he's clearly got the technology to upgrade himself. Also, he did that in TCW which, as you know, is infamous for Grievous-jobbing.

Originally posted by MythLord
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That's... actually not true. I believe the Jedi Path notes a lightsaber's feat can only boil water, which I'm pretty sure wouldn't be enough to cut Grievous.

Um, not sure if you're trolling, but we see lightsabers melting solid durasteel blast doors in TPM, lol.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Um, not sure if you're trolling, but we see lightsabers melting solid durasteel blast doors in TPM, lol.

Plasma energy, m8.

Not sure if you're still trolling but whether the lightsaber is plasma has nothing to do with whether it transfers energy via heat, lol.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Not sure if you're still trolling but whether the lightsaber is plasma has nothing to do with whether it transfers energy via heat, lol.

No, trust me... Trust me... I am science.

But as Legend says, isn't it just luck anyway?

Originally posted by The Ellimist
But as Legend says, isn't it just luck anyway?

The sun rises in the morning because it's lucky.

Scientifically, it is lucky that the sun rises in the morning. The odds of our solar system forming were pretty wild iirc.

On my last final I should've just written down a random number +/- infinity and said that the system just behaves the laws of luck.