Originally posted by riv6672
^^^wow, thats some bullshit.Okay, we'll do it the old fashioned way.
Surfer energy drain FTW against Superman.
Then its two on one against Thor.
Surfer and Strange victorious.
Surfer won't be able to drain Superman.
1. He won't have time, Superman is pretty fast
2. He will have to touch Superman
3. He will not think of it mid battle.
Strange is tough though. The teams only chance is to use speed. A good offense would be a good defense.
Originally posted by h1a8
Surfer won't be able to drain Superman.
1. He won't have time, Superman is pretty fast
2. He will have to touch Superman
3. He will not think of it mid battle.Strange is tough though. The teams only chance is to use speed. A good offense would be a good defense.
He doesnt need to touch him. He's just as fast.
Defenders solely due to classic strange being trans not high herald
Originally posted by Sin I AMOf course he does. Otherwise he would have several feats of draining high Herald level characters without touching them.
He doesnt need to touch him. He's just as fast.Defenders solely due to classic strange being trans not high herald
He's not as fast in combat.
Even if he was just as fast then it still won't work. He have to be a lot faster. Superman can pounce him less than a nanosecond. Surfers not doing anything exotic in less than a nanosecond.
Strange has a weakness. He's not fast in the beginning of a fight. He will be frozen in time to Superman the moment the fight begins.
Originally posted by h1a8
Of course he does. Otherwise he would have several feats of draining high Herald level characters without touching them.He's not as fast in combat.
Even if he was just as fast then it still won't work. He have to be a lot faster. Superman can pounce him less than a nanosecond. Surfers not doing anything exotic in less than a nanosecond.Strange has a weakness. He's not fast in the beginning of a fight. He will be frozen in time to Superman the moment the fight begins.
Im not gonna argue with you and your made up fanfic speed shit. Surfer is fast enough if you doubt it check his respect thread. Speed is not the determining factor it's stranges magic. Plus he has auto shields so theres that.
Originally posted by Sin I AMProve that Surfer can absorb someone completely in less than a microsecond. Prove that Surfer can drain someone without touching them in less than 5 seconds. Surfer was absorbing Firelords energy through the aura he was emitting. That is his only feat of draining a Herald level being without touching them.
Im not gonna argue with you and your made up fanfic speed shit. Surfer is fast enough if you doubt it check his respect thread. Speed is not the determining factor it's stranges magic. Plus he has auto shields so theres that.
I know about Strange's autoshields. Everyone does. Yet I still said what I said. Why?
Because Strange's autoshields are not strong enough to fend off Superman. Superman casually busts GL shields (which are arguably stronger than Strange's autoshields).
As far as speed Surfer is fast but Superman's feats of doing actions in a short time trumps Surfer's feats. For example, Superman has walked around, took off his tie casually, and had an entire conversation in a fraction of a nanosecond.
Originally posted by h1a8
Prove that Surfer can absorb someone completely in less than a microsecond. Prove that Surfer can drain someone without touching them in less than 5 seconds. Surfer was absorbing Firelords energy through the aura he was emitting. That is his only feat of draining a Herald level being without touching them.I know about Strange's autoshields. Everyone does. Yet I still said what I said. Why?
Because Strange's autoshields are not strong enough to fend off Superman. Superman casually busts GL shields (which are arguably stronger than Strange's autoshields).
As far as speed Surfer is fast but Superman's feats of doing actions in a short time trumps Surfer's feats. For example, Superman has walked around, took off his tie casually, and had an entire conversation in a fraction of a nanosecond.
Speed is never a deciding factor in these type of fights. Youve been here long enough i shouldnt need to prove anything. Go look at his respect thread if you dont think he's fast. Micro, macro, pico bullshit thats just pointless conjecture and goes against 99% of his showings but hey you arent gonna change. The speed argument is fail here so debate a different relevant point please.
Strange autoshields are sufficient enough he wont get one shot. He could arguably take these two alone but meh thats another debate.