Barsen'Thor vs. Dooku (Force battle)

Originally posted by Petrus
Korriban's a DS nexus, and they were hardly large cruisers.

A pathetic nexus even as of Bane's time, that has grown weaker according to Sidious.

And the cruisers were "massive, hulking warships" and "giant phantoms", so obviously they were large. They were also in one of the ancient Sith hangars, reserved for only the massive battle ships of any time prior to the Battle of Ruusan, IIRC. And these ships can range from 80-400 meters long. Obviously, it's closer to 80 meters, but still damn impressive.

Originally posted by Petrus
Nah, not really. Are you as familiar with 'Thor's feats?

Indeed. He/She and HoT are sub-Kenobi feggits 👆

Originally posted by Petrus
Proof that it's grown weaker? Still a nexus, though. Sure as hell doesn't seem weaker when Yoda visits.

Yoda visiting sort of skirts the line between Legends and Canon, not sure which it qualifies as. We know from PoD that the Korriban nexus was faded due to the ancients having passed on or whatever, and there's no reason to think it would've bounced back in a thousand years.

And Anakin's description of them is hardly enough to go by. In my opinion, 'Thor's large metal chunk was also monstrous.

Anakin is around lots of big ships...

@Mythlord, source for Sidious saying Korriban's nexus is weaker?

Originally posted by The Ellimist
@Mythlord, source for Sidious saying Korriban's nexus is weaker?

In Book of the Sith he mentions how the nexus grew weaker over millennia, or something along those lines.

👆 Plus Bane really is an expert on nexuses, I'd trust him on that subject.

Originally posted by MythLord
A pathetic nexus even as of Bane's time, that has grown weaker according to Sidious.

And the cruisers were "massive, hulking warships" and "giant phantoms", so obviously they were large. They were also in one of the ancient Sith hangars, reserved for only the massive battle ships of any time prior to the Battle of Ruusan, IIRC. And these ships can range from 80-400 meters long. Obviously, it's closer to 80 meters, but still damn impressive.

Yeah, some of the objects Thor handles [before his prime and weakened, btw] can also be described as 'large' or 'giant'. It doesn't really surpass Thor's large object-lifting by much, if at all.

And Yoda visits Moriband AKA Korriban and it's pretty noticeable how he is physically and mentally affected by the dark power that resides there, so it doesn't seem weak at all. Even if it's weak, as Sidious describes, it's still good enough to be considered a nexus and to amp Dooku to a certain point.

Indeed. He/She and HoT are sub-Kenobi feggits 👆

KEK.

Um yeah, I'm just going to point out that the phrases "monstrous" and "massive, hulking warships" never appear in the novel where Dooku throws the cruisers, and near as I can tell there's not even a mention of Anakin being impressed by the size.

In fact, this is the only time the word "war" is even used in that novel:
"Obi-Wan held up his lightsaber. From its glow they could see pictographs on the walls, images scrawled in red that had faded. Images of deeds done by the Sith. Wars. Massacres. Anakin turned his face away."

People are tacking on descriptions of the ships Dooku threw that weren't even in the novel and it's honestly kinda ridiculous.

Why you lyin' DMB?

He does call them "hulking" I believe.

The text describes them once as "hulking wrecks of ships" yes, but most of the claims being made about descriptions of the ships appears to be BS.

Hulking implies big mass...

It's certainly bigger than the blast door that Barsen broke through.

He also lifts a massive chunk of metal almost casually, while weakened, and not in his prime yet...

Yeah, any ship large enough for multiple people to fly in would qualify as having a big mass :/

I'm not saying that Dooku loses per se, but some claims people make about how the text describes the ships are blatantly untrue.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Barsen'thor, who is criminally underrated.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Hulking implies big mass...

It's certainly bigger than the blast door that Barsen broke through.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Hulking implies big mass...

It's certainly bigger than the blast door that Barsen broke through.

So basically you lied about Anakin calling them monsterous and despite literally just yesterday ragging on Ziggy for estimating the scale of a feat now you're comfortable with saying these ships were "certainly" bigger than a two story building?

Seems legit.

🙂

Despite my efforts Neph has brought the mockery back on himself, it seems.

When I get back on my laptop, I'm tearing his pathetic brain apart. 👆

I'm not allowed to call you out on bs anymore without you getting mad?

No, I'm just doing the same to you and your life. I can't elaborate on my phone right now.