Visas Marr vs Jolee Bindo

Fight takes place in the Rebuilt Jedi Enclave courtyard. Both in their primes.

I'm much more impressed with Jolee's abilities than Visas losing to a near Force Deaf Exile with a vibroblade.

Visas grows since then, though. Not that her lightsaber skills appear to anything impressive, but I'd wager blocking Nihilus' connection to the Ravager and healing Canderous from mortal injuries in short order are above Jolee's Force showings, no?

Hard to imagine how skilled Visas is. If she managed to beat a HK-series assassin droid, she can probably take down four katarns.

Visas grows and undetermined amount and then loses to Traya. Not exactly an argument on why she should win this.

I'm not deciding who wins, yet. I just brought up two Force showings on her part that are better than Jolee's for counterbalance.

It's not as if Jolee wouldn't be effortlessly crushed by Traya off the Trayus Core, anyway.

Except nothing says she healed Canderous, and she was only able to block Nihilus because of her bond with him, which she messed with, not that it helped much because Nihilus was still winning until he killed himself.

What? In Restored Content, he walks over the mine and falls on the ground, and then tells them to leave him alone. Visas says she can't do that or something and kneels besides him, and they have a brief talk before Canderous stands up again and says "you sounded like Revan" or something.

He clearly gets healed, given that he was convinced he was going to die before and then he stands up without the injured animation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwNQUF2C2vE

And that's how you determine if the Force is used or not? Yeah, that's some ironclad, airtight, bulletproof, unquestionable truth. Aside from that, I believe he gets shocked, not run over a mine, not that it really matters.

According to the actual script, all that happens is she "sees Mandalore wounded" and then talks to him. It makes no comment about healing.

I linked a video above. She explicitly says that she's watched her people die, that Canderous will live and that he has no choice. I'm pretty sure that's an indication of her using the Force to heal him.

Visas, as the Shadow Hand of Darth Nihilus, is the fourth most skilled and powerful Sith in an organization that wiped out tens of thousands of Jedi, and awards its members based on number of individual Jedi kills. Pretty sure that accolade is greater than anything we've ever seen from Jolee Bindo.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
According to the actual script, all that happens is she "sees Mandalore wounded" and then talks to him. It makes no comment about healing.

Right, so Canderous being wounded and telling the others to leave him, which is an indication that he thinks he's not going to make it, and then Visas telling him that he will survive despite his objections, and then him suddenly standing up again with no injury animation means that he wasn't healed?

Given the script didn't say that, I'm inclined to believe she inspired Ordo's will and gave him "the strength" to rise again and ignore the pain.

Ordo lost the will to live and Marr used Revan as a way to give it back.

Originally posted by SunRazer
I linked a video above. She explicitly says that she's watched her people die, that Canderous will live and that he has no choice. I'm pretty sure that's an indication of her using the Force to heal him.

A Mandalorian (Mandalore, no less) losing the will to live over walking over a mine. 😂

Again, he had no injury animation when he stood back up. So he just magically healed himself?

He didn't walk over a mine. He was injured in the fight with Nihilus. Also, the script makes no note of any injury animation.

The cutscene you referred to isn't canonical. I'm not sure why you are using it to argue your point.

I thought you accepted cut content.

Anyways, it was over a mine in the video I linked above, and I'm pretty sure most videos have it that way. The only different one I've seen is one where Nihilus' red dissipating crap also releases Lightning that strikes Canderous.

I accept what the script states. Mods involving cut-content add additional material not described in the script (the mine, for example), and thus aren't canonical.

Also, regarding there being no injury animation - that's the point. He gets back up and he's suddenly uninjured. That makes no sense unless he was healed.