Yeah, there's no "making Nathema a *****", lol. And Surik wasn't "about to be mind-raped". As for Malachor - yeah, Revan and Malak had already begun their descent into the dark side, so the comparison with Kreia doesn't even count, lol.
Also, he broke free from Vitiate directly after leaving Kaas? I thought it was over time.
No, he wasn't. Revan's arrival at Malachor marked his first full-fleshed beginnings.
Revan went from building to building with Malak and even was there long enough to observe its effects and how it began so that he could base the thought bomb off it. 😬
Surik was there for like an hour and nearly killed herself.
Originally posted by SunRazer
If Revan began his descent to the dark side on Malachor, then he was corrupted, lol. If he was already dark-sided, then it's not a resistance feat. Take your pick, lol.
Uh, Chronicles says this:
"The rout of the Mandalorians reaches a crescendo above the skies of Malachor V. Unbeknownst to the Jedi Order, DARTH REVAN has discovered numerous Sith artifacts and holocrons, all stored in great tomb-like cities buried beneath Malachor V's surface. As Revan plundered these tombs and relics, he fell deeper into the Dark Side."-- Chronicles of the Old Republic
Which is more or less how Kreia fell, lol - by getting intrigued by the Sith hermetica.
It is a period of turmoil in the Galaxy. The fierce Mandalorian warrior race begins the MANDALORIAN WAR by viciously and simultaneously attacking three quadrants of Republic space. As the battle rages on, Jedi Master REVAN moves surreptitiously between unknown sectors, scouting for potential strongholds to withstand the attacks. He soon discovers the shadowy Malachor V, a planet listed by Mandalorian scholars as "forbidden" to step foot on. The reason for this soon becomes clear as Revan is almost devoured by primal Sith forces on the world's surface. Revan's will allows him to feed on (and not be consumed by) the power of the dark side. Revan develops an evil but brilliant plan: Using the dark power of Malachor V, he will seduce an army of Jedi, completely loyal to him alone. He will then turn the planet's evil power against the Mandalorian army in battle, luring them to his stronghold and destroying them completely. A stronghold is immediately constructed.
The text directly states Revan was able to resist the energies of the planet, but still created an evil plan, presumably based on the teachings provided.
Which is more or less how Kreia fell, lol - by getting intrigued by the Sith hermetica.
Originally posted by SunRazer
Revan's will allowing him to "feed on and not be consumed by the nexus" isn't relevant to the example here. Traya didn't fall to the nexus - she fell to the hermetica and Sith Sorcerers.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Nope. She fell by the nexus. The fact you can't comprehend direct statements is pretty laughable. 👆
LMFAO. I spent two threads with you debating how KotOR CG retcons that. She didn't fall to any nexus - she fell to the hermetica and Sith Sorcerers, as the KotOR CG explicitly states.
Traya's not my favorite character, though. And Revan is for you, so the bias argument is laughable.
I didn't fail on any thread. She clearly didn't get consumed by the nexus "as soon as she entered the planet":
She was "intrigued" (still not consumed) by the hermetica and still didn't fall until the Sorcerers and the texts combined their power and made her "fall under their seductive spell", which is when she actually falls to the dark side. Nowhere does it mention her being wrecked by the nexus as soon as she arrives.
'Falling under its seductive spell" is when she falls to the dark side, lol. She becomes Traya in the moment.
By your naming logic, the fact that she's still Kreia after she lands on the planet means she didn't fall immediately. 😂 She did read some hermetica before "Darth Traya falls under its seductive spell", so at worst, that would've been the cause of her fall, then, not the nexus.