In both sources Kenobi mounted offense several times throughout the duel, and while they weren't effective neither would be Mara's. Vader a year before ANH could effortlessly defend a Jar'Kai Juyo user's strikes who can disintegrate frigates.
The notion that Kenobi has shit offense is retarded. He's a master of Ataru, and likely superior than Qui-Gon who was one of the best duelist in the history of the Jedi Order.
Originally posted by cs_zoltan
In both sources Kenobi mounted offense several times throughout the duel, and while they weren't effective neither would be Mara's. Vader a year before ANH could effortlessly defend a Jar'Kai Juyo user's strikes who can disintegrate frigates.
Obi-Wan only mounted one successful offense when Vader thought he had him. Everything else was woefully inadequate.
As for the second part - you mean Starkiller? He made far more headway against Vader than Ben did.
The notion that Kenobi has shit offense is retarded. He's a master of Ataru, and likely superior than Qui-Gon who was one of the best duelist in the history of the Jedi Order.
Obi-Wan in his prime doesn't have shit offense (heck, it's not "shit" even as an old man), but old Ben Kenobi isn't beating Mara/Kyle etc. by virtue of his offensive skills.
He's never once drawn upon Ataru in ANH and all supplementary sources relating to his duel with Vader only mention his Soresu. Moreover, sources mention that he had physically declined since RotS and grew out of practice, which probably explains why using Ataru wouldn't be the most sensible thing to do.
Qui-Gon doesn't have anything on Mara or Kyle. Ben's superiority over him doesn't put him over either.
Originally posted by cs_zoltan
In both sources Kenobi mounted offense several times throughout the duel, and while they weren't effective neither would be Mara's. Vader a year before ANH could effortlessly defend a Jar'Kai Juyo user's strikes who can disintegrate frigates.The notion that Kenobi has shit offense is retarded. He's a master of Ataru, and likely superior than Qui-Gon who was one of the best duelist in the history of the Jedi Order.
He's exceeded TPM Qui-Gon that's for sure. But Jinn's offence is better than Kenobi's :/
Obi's offence is certainly not shit lmao 👆
Not saying it's shit at all - just that saying that his brief and circumstantial success against Vader through offense doesn't constitute a sustained means of pressing either Mara or Kyle and then bringing them down. Ben's offense isn't enough to break their defense. Now, it's the same the other way around, but I have faith that Mara (maybe even Kyle) has the stamina necessary to wear Kenobi down.